Have either of you to pillocks even been to the UK recently? Making rash judgments on news by stereotyping the people involved is both stupid, irrational and certainly shows a lack of basic intelligence.
On the basis that I was brought up in Greater Manchester, Live in West Yorkshire and work in Lancashire with a holiday cottage in South Wales I think I can say with a fair amount of honesty that your "conclusions" are completely unfounded. The "yobs" as they are called are predominantly white, living on council estates with young parents who are usually obese, illiterate and seemingly welded to the television set with no idea where their children spend their free time. Neither do they care about the mindless vandalism perpetrated by the youngsters, preferring to blame the state schools and the rest of society for the upbringing of THEIR children who have no moral principles or guidelines whatsoever. The disruptive kids have usually been brought up in socially dysfunctional families with no role models or moral framework whatsoever - how do you expect them to behave, and why are we surprised when they involve themselves in mindless acts of aggression and violence? Our politically correct society obliges us to purchase a television license before we can have a television, but allows us to have kids without any training whatsoever - how stupid. We support the teenage single parent families with free handouts which make it virtually impossible to remove anyone from the welfare state support system and Social Care/Welfare is no longer a safety net, it is a way of life for many many families. This is NOTHING to do with muslims or colour or creed, but everything to do with laziness, greed and a lack of respect for anything to do with authority and age. Unfortunately we are on the slippery slope because this is now the second generation of "TV'ised" morons who were fostered by my generation of "open toe'd sandle" brigade. They spent more time demonstrating against Nuclear disarmament and less time working for a living. In the late 60's. those of us who "could", worked, and those who "couldn't" went into teaching, local government and politics because it was an easy option and not because they had a calling. Unfortunately these are the same people who now run the health service and local councils which come up with all these PC ideas and allow spongers to freeload on the state without taking any responsibility for their actions. It is ourselves that have created the problem. Kids are no different now than they have ever been. However, any good parent knows that you need the following attributes to be a good parent: 1. Fairness 2. Firmness 3. Understanding 4. Moral principles 5. Good communication skills 6. A family environment which embraces as opposed to ostracizes the child But most of all 7. An interest in the children themselves Give any of these kids a week with my ex Warrant Officer in the RAF and he's sort them out good and proper. Unfortunately we live in a society which prefers to reward troublemakers with useless prison sentences and community service as opposed to fixing the basic underlying fault - the parents. If more of our children were given the social fabric and coherence that the asian community show in terms of extended families and respect for their elders etc. then things would be a lot better believe me. We seem to have simply lost the plot, wanting to blame everything and everybody else for society's ills. The old saying "the sins of the father" rings very true. We caused it, only we can put it right and simply passing the buck and postulating about which section of the community is to blame will simply not fix the problem. To sort this whole mess out is going to put a lot of people's noses out of joint. End of Sermon! Dave Crozier -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: 12 February 2008 09:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] BBC Refuses to use the word Muslim once in this article On Tuesday 12 February 2008 02:14, Paul Hill wrote: > > they lead you to believe it has nothing to do with Muslims. > > Because it hasn't. Where are you getting this crap from? Hi Paul! I wonder if he was looking at the table lower on the page? "Table shows number of attacks according to FBU figures A study commissioned by the union suggests the number of attacks in England and Wales increased by 15% last year, while official data showed a drop of 68%. Attacks on firefighters Three-quarters of all attacks took place in ten fire and rescue services Fire and rescue service No. attacks 2005-6 No. attacks 2006-7 % change Greater Manchester 259 240 -7.3 South Yorkshire 90 148 +64.4 Merseyside 189 145 -22.7 West Yorkshire 135 117 -13.3 Tyne and Wear 39 108 +176.9 West Midlands 140 106 -24.3 Cleveland 81 103 +27.2 Durham and Darlington 40 83 +107.5 South Wales 43 39 -9.3 Lancashire 26 38 +46.1 Source: FBU/Freedom of Information communications End quote, hope the formatting holds up! Another opinion: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3176455.ece So, Paul, what is the predominant religion of folks in South Yorkshire, Tyne and Wear, Cleveland, Durham and Darlington and Lancashire anyway - Baptist? What is the predominant religion in the other districts, the ones where it is bad but not as bad as last year? Are there ANY Muslims in these districts? Are there ANY Muslims in Britain, have ANY been identified in these assaults? Contrast this with (now defunct) The Daily American after the 1968 Detroit race riot. Printed the police blotter every day, including a description of the suspect. Castigated by the liberals, of course. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
