Good Theology, Charlie... v/r
//SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Coleman Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Expelled for questioning Darwin At 09:42 AM 3/11/2008 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote: >On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote: > > > It sounds like the hang up you have is that God may actually allow His > > created to make a wrong choice. I suppose I'm trying to say that when He > > gave us "free will" it seems He limited Himself in that He would not > > intervene if we did make a wrong choice. > > You continue to ignore the main issue: the fact that we are stupid/ >unwise/impulsive enough to make "wrong" choices. That's a design >decision the Mr. Omnipotent made before anything else. He made us >weak; he made us stupid; he gave us impulses and a limited ability to >control them. Actually, I believe the first and only choice was the regarding the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden. Don't eat from it seems to be a pretty simple instruction. But God did give Adam and Eve free will and they ended up choosing wrongly. Was that God's fault? I don't think so - it wasn't like they didn't understand the one thing they weren't supposed to do. But they allowed themselves to be deceived (free will makes it possible to be deceived). After that first "fall," everything else in the world was "corrupted" - at least our perception of things in regards to how God originally created them. So God didn't design us "stupid" - we did that to ourselves. To you it may seem more logical to just have wiped out humankind altogether at that point, and the billions/trillions of people since the fall just simply would never have existed. But apparently God didn't choose that path. The good news is that God did provide a way for us to get back to Him. It was foretold that many still won't accept it - maybe because of pride - but there will be billions that do. It is an exercise in our "free will" to determine which way we go. -Charlie [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
