That's certainly the logical place for it, and it's the logical format for
the Foreigns page of NuVoc.

A beginner might still need a bit more guidance however...

I've written a stub page: https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Debug
which I invite someone else to finish who knows *debug* better than I do.

How about a simple worked example for how to debug an error in jconsole (or
jqt used in a jconsoling way)...?
How to do it with Run > Debug ⌘K is best described elsewhere, e.g. under
[[Debug]].

Ian Clark

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 00:33, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have copied most of the information from
> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm to
> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Foreigns#m13 with very little
> added.
>
> Henry Rich
>
> On 4/3/2022 8:13 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
> > IMHO debugging in J is not the happy reassuring experience it could be.
> Any
> > newbie who consults NuVoc looking for debug enlightenment is all set to
> > spend a distressing two hours.
> >
> > Is that just my lack of familiarity with the geewhiz stuff that's there?
> > Because I only resort to (13!:) and the debugger When All Else Fails.
> >
> > Then I go straight to
> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm
> > which for me is the most helpful page in the whole of J Help.
> >
> > It's a tall order to improve on it. If NuVoc is going to get an ancillary
> > page on Debugging, it could do worse than link dx013 and leave it at
> that.
> >
> > Actually I do have a small improvement on dx013 to offer. For my own use
> > I've replaced every 13!:* reference with the corresponding stdlib cover
> > verb. I attach the resulting doctored webpage as a .webarchive, hoping it
> > won't get stripped off.
> >
> > If it does, then PM me for a copy.
> >
> > On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 at 16:04, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have ported debug_verbs.htm over as Debug/Verbs, and included it in
> >> the debug navigator.
> >>
> >> Someone (probably me) should go in and "merge" the two tables of
> >> contents on the page. (In other words, add the __NOTOC__ keyword to
> >> disable the wiki generated table after replicating its functionality
> >> in the table with descriptive comments a short distance down on the
> >> page.)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raul
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:54 AM chris burke <cbu...@jsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> I haven't found a replacement for
> >>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet.
> >>>
> >>> This should be a new child page of
> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug
> >> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:00 AM Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/mediawiki/index.php/Guides/Covering_a_verb
> >>>> seems useful, but I haven't found a replacement for
> >>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raul
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> That's pretty good.  It needs to be referred to from the NuVoc
> >> ancillary
> >>>>> pages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems to be about the graphical debugger.  Some users, as I
> >>>>> understand, use debug commands from the keyboard.  Some documentation
> >>>>> for them would be wolcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Henry Rich
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/2/2022 10:24 PM, Raul Miller wrote:
> >>>>>> What about https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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