Yes I suppose it should. More manageable. Be nice if the result could look more like first aid than a semester course.
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 22:33, chris burke <cbu...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > Shouldn't all debug pages go on or under the page > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug? For now this page is primarily for > the gui debugger, but should be expanded to include all the foreign debug > functions. Then NuVoc can point to this page. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:03 AM Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Right. The Foreigns page is just for reference. We still need a page > > devoted to Debug and how to use it. > > > > Henry rich > > > > On 4/5/2022 1:59 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > > That's certainly the logical place for it, and it's the logical format > > for > > > the Foreigns page of NuVoc. > > > > > > A beginner might still need a bit more guidance however... > > > > > > I've written a stub page: > > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Debug > > > which I invite someone else to finish who knows *debug* better than I > do. > > > > > > How about a simple worked example for how to debug an error in jconsole > > (or > > > jqt used in a jconsoling way)...? > > > How to do it with Run > Debug ⌘K is best described elsewhere, e.g. > under > > > [[Debug]]. > > > > > > Ian Clark > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 00:33, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I have copied most of the information from > > >> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm to > > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Foreigns#m13 with very > > little > > >> added. > > >> > > >> Henry Rich > > >> > > >> On 4/3/2022 8:13 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > >>> IMHO debugging in J is not the happy reassuring experience it could > be. > > >> Any > > >>> newbie who consults NuVoc looking for debug enlightenment is all set > to > > >>> spend a distressing two hours. > > >>> > > >>> Is that just my lack of familiarity with the geewhiz stuff that's > > there? > > >>> Because I only resort to (13!:) and the debugger When All Else Fails. > > >>> > > >>> Then I go straight to > > >> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm > > >>> which for me is the most helpful page in the whole of J Help. > > >>> > > >>> It's a tall order to improve on it. If NuVoc is going to get an > > ancillary > > >>> page on Debugging, it could do worse than link dx013 and leave it at > > >> that. > > >>> Actually I do have a small improvement on dx013 to offer. For my own > > use > > >>> I've replaced every 13!:* reference with the corresponding stdlib > cover > > >>> verb. I attach the resulting doctored webpage as a .webarchive, > hoping > > it > > >>> won't get stripped off. > > >>> > > >>> If it does, then PM me for a copy. > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 at 16:04, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I have ported debug_verbs.htm over as Debug/Verbs, and included it > in > > >>>> the debug navigator. > > >>>> > > >>>> Someone (probably me) should go in and "merge" the two tables of > > >>>> contents on the page. (In other words, add the __NOTOC__ keyword to > > >>>> disable the wiki generated table after replicating its functionality > > >>>> in the table with descriptive comments a short distance down on the > > >>>> page.) > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Raul > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:54 AM chris burke <cbu...@jsoftware.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>> I haven't found a replacement for > > >>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This should be a new child page of > > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug > > >>>> . > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:00 AM Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > https://code.jsoftware.com/mediawiki/index.php/Guides/Covering_a_verb > > >>>>>> seems useful, but I haven't found a replacement for > > >>>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Raul > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> That's pretty good. It needs to be referred to from the NuVoc > > >>>> ancillary > > >>>>>>> pages. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It seems to be about the graphical debugger. Some users, as I > > >>>>>>> understand, use debug commands from the keyboard. Some > > documentation > > >>>>>>> for them would be wolcome. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Henry Rich > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 4/2/2022 10:24 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > > >>>>>>>> What about https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >>>>>>> https://www.avg.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>> For information about J forums see > > >>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>> > > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > >> -- > > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >> https://www.avg.com > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
