Shouldn't all debug pages go on or under the page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug? For now this page is primarily for the gui debugger, but should be expanded to include all the foreign debug functions. Then NuVoc can point to this page.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:03 AM Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Right. The Foreigns page is just for reference. We still need a page > devoted to Debug and how to use it. > > Henry rich > > On 4/5/2022 1:59 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > That's certainly the logical place for it, and it's the logical format > for > > the Foreigns page of NuVoc. > > > > A beginner might still need a bit more guidance however... > > > > I've written a stub page: > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Debug > > which I invite someone else to finish who knows *debug* better than I do. > > > > How about a simple worked example for how to debug an error in jconsole > (or > > jqt used in a jconsoling way)...? > > How to do it with Run > Debug ⌘K is best described elsewhere, e.g. under > > [[Debug]]. > > > > Ian Clark > > > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 00:33, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I have copied most of the information from > >> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm to > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Foreigns#m13 with very > little > >> added. > >> > >> Henry Rich > >> > >> On 4/3/2022 8:13 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > >>> IMHO debugging in J is not the happy reassuring experience it could be. > >> Any > >>> newbie who consults NuVoc looking for debug enlightenment is all set to > >>> spend a distressing two hours. > >>> > >>> Is that just my lack of familiarity with the geewhiz stuff that's > there? > >>> Because I only resort to (13!:) and the debugger When All Else Fails. > >>> > >>> Then I go straight to > >> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm > >>> which for me is the most helpful page in the whole of J Help. > >>> > >>> It's a tall order to improve on it. If NuVoc is going to get an > ancillary > >>> page on Debugging, it could do worse than link dx013 and leave it at > >> that. > >>> Actually I do have a small improvement on dx013 to offer. For my own > use > >>> I've replaced every 13!:* reference with the corresponding stdlib cover > >>> verb. I attach the resulting doctored webpage as a .webarchive, hoping > it > >>> won't get stripped off. > >>> > >>> If it does, then PM me for a copy. > >>> > >>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 at 16:04, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> I have ported debug_verbs.htm over as Debug/Verbs, and included it in > >>>> the debug navigator. > >>>> > >>>> Someone (probably me) should go in and "merge" the two tables of > >>>> contents on the page. (In other words, add the __NOTOC__ keyword to > >>>> disable the wiki generated table after replicating its functionality > >>>> in the table with descriptive comments a short distance down on the > >>>> page.) > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Raul > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:54 AM chris burke <cbu...@jsoftware.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> I haven't found a replacement for > >>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet. > >>>>> > >>>>> This should be a new child page of > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug > >>>> . > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:00 AM Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > https://code.jsoftware.com/mediawiki/index.php/Guides/Covering_a_verb > >>>>>> seems useful, but I haven't found a replacement for > >>>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Raul > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> That's pretty good. It needs to be referred to from the NuVoc > >>>> ancillary > >>>>>>> pages. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It seems to be about the graphical debugger. Some users, as I > >>>>>>> understand, use debug commands from the keyboard. Some > documentation > >>>>>>> for them would be wolcome. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Henry Rich > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 4/2/2022 10:24 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > >>>>>>>> What about https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >>>>>>> https://www.avg.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> For information about J forums see > >>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> -- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >> https://www.avg.com > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
