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                Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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                dim 12.09.2004 à 15:50 (Europe/Paris)

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"From a user point of view, as admin of a project, my requirements are : 
- to be informed when it happens, when it's restored 
- to get a planned date for restoration of service 
- be told whether there's data loss or not (and what I should have done to 
avoid data loss)"

And that's the kind of information we usually provide, so there's no problem 
providing these. This remark will be taken into account when writing the 
template for the emergency website.

 "For example, you could have a http://www.gna.org hosted on another"

As currently gna.org eq www.gna.org and since it makes sense to do so, I do not 
think we could do it that way without creating confusion. 
An url that always work will be provided and will be the meeting point in case 
www.gna.org/gna.org does not work.


"For hosting, you may ask several LUGs, maybe one can provide you with limited 
hosting : 
- a homepage for information (users have to find something interesting there, 
or they will forget this URL...) 
- maybe a wiki (as was done with tuxfamily.org...) 
- perhaps a ML for emergency situations (that project admins are advised to 
subscribe to)"

Emergency will be an homepage, I think that what fit most to the current need 
(gna admins having a place where they can put gpg-signed messages) without 
being to big to maintain (a wiki looks like a thing for endless breakage ; we 
do not intend to have troubles longer than 24h long frequently, and surely not 
weeks).


"Last : for backups, they should be externalized if possible - either on user 
side : for cvs that's easy (but not for support/bugs...) 
- or by server side : maybe a regular rsync (but once gna grows it becomes more 
and more heavy...)"

We already have such backups, even if projects are still advised to maintain 
their own backups.

 











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[task #744] Full Item Snapshot:

URL: <http://gna.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=744>
Project: Gna! Administration
Submitted by: Mathieu Roy
On: dim 12.09.2004 à 10:41

Should Start On:  dim 12.09.2004 à 00:00
Should be Finished on:  mar 12.10.2004 à 00:00
Category:  Services Functionalities
Priority:  9 - Immediate
Resolution:  None
Privacy:  Public
Assigned to:  None
Percent Complete:  0%
Status:  Open
Effort:  0.00


Summary:  emergency homepage

Original Submission:  We definitely need an emergency homepage, as suggested by 
Baud123, to be able to inform user easily in case all system go offline. This 
page must be on another location that gna machines (otherwise it would probably 
not help much). An account on this machine should be accessible through ssh to 
gna admins + virtual domain.
We could set emergency.gna.org -- if we use a gna address, it means that the 
secondary DNS must be a working thing.


Commentaires
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Date: dim 12.09.2004 à 15:50        By: Mathieu Roy <yeupou>
"From a user point of view, as admin of a project, my requirements are : 
- to be informed when it happens, when it's restored 
- to get a planned date for restoration of service 
- be told whether there's data loss or not (and what I should have done to 
avoid data loss)"

And that's the kind of information we usually provide, so there's no problem 
providing these. This remark will be taken into account when writing the 
template for the emergency website.

 "For example, you could have a http://www.gna.org hosted on another"

As currently gna.org eq www.gna.org and since it makes sense to do so, I do not 
think we could do it that way without creating confusion. 
An url that always work will be provided and will be the meeting point in case 
www.gna.org/gna.org does not work.


"For hosting, you may ask several LUGs, maybe one can provide you with limited 
hosting : 
- a homepage for information (users have to find something interesting there, 
or they will forget this URL...) 
- maybe a wiki (as was done with tuxfamily.org...) 
- perhaps a ML for emergency situations (that project admins are advised to 
subscribe to)"

Emergency will be an homepage, I think that what fit most to the current need 
(gna admins having a place where they can put gpg-signed messages) without 
being to big to maintain (a wiki looks like a thing for endless breakage ; we 
do not intend to have troubles longer than 24h long frequently, and surely not 
weeks).


"Last : for backups, they should be externalized if possible - either on user 
side : for cvs that's easy (but not for support/bugs...) 
- or by server side : maybe a regular rsync (but once gna grows it becomes more 
and more heavy...)"

We already have such backups, even if projects are still advised to maintain 
their own backups.

 






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Date: dim 12.09.2004 à 15:14        By: Benoît Audouard <baud123>
I was not far for my previous request, as it was support #218 : reread the 
(full) discussion...


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