Lha Pinpin itu arti kata wathan dan matn aja nggak tahu kok. --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Emangnya, lu ini siapa shg bisa bilang ajaran Islam ga diimplementasikan di > Iran, Afghan atau Arab Saudi? > > Lu ini kan cuma lulusan pesantren yg percaya kibulan kafir kayak Maurice > Bucaille, lu bukan ulama Arab atau Iran yg udah belajar Islam selama puluhan > thn. > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:51 PM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable for Women > > > > > >Â > >Tem, kan elo yang bilang kalau arap saudi itu bukan negara islam. Kan elo > >yang bilang itumah kerajaan keluarga saud . . . ! > > > >Afganistan dan iran negara islam? please deh . . . Saat rasul ditanya ya > >rasul, apakah madinah itu ? Rasul menjawab madinah adalah tempat dimana > >ajran islam itu tegak (terimplementasi) > > > >Tempat dalam konteks negara yang telah relative berhasil mengaplikasikan > >ajaran islam tentang kebersihan adalah sebagian dari iman diantaranya > >singapore . . . Ostrali. . . Brunei . . > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Gua yakin si arra_s pasti pengen setengah mati unt hidup di negara Islam > >> spt Iran atau Arab Saudi. Atau mungkin Afghanistan adalah tempat yg paling > >> ideal. > >> > >> > >> > >> 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable for Women > >> Wednesday, 08 August 2012 > >> > >> > >> > >> The 935,000 applicants to Iranian > >> universities for the next academic year face unprecedented gender > >> discrimination in some study subjects. > >> Mohabat News -- Rooz Online reports, New previously un-announced > >> restrictions are barring > >> women from pursuing certain university studies. Most of these academic > >> programs are generally in the engineering fields which until last year > >> were equally open to men and women. With the new regulations, some 77 > >> specific academic fields at the graduate level will be denied to women > >> in the country's 36 government universities. > >> > >> From 28 to 30 June this year some 1 > >> million and 660 thousand applicants took the national university > >> entrance examinations in Iran. From amongst them over 935,000 of the > >> accepted applicants must announce their specific field of study to the > >> national educational evaluation organization by August 13 and then wait > >> for confirmation from the agency. Until a few days ago the wide > >> participation of women in four groups: empirical sciences, the human > >> sciences, the arts and foreign languages dominated the news. Today, the > >> wide and unannounced gender discrimination is the news topic of the day. > >> Responses to the new restrictions have been so extensive that even the > >> Ministry of Education's academic evaluation organization has taken a > >> position against it and it appears that a review and reversal of the > >> decision may be in the making. > >> > >> The testing deputy of the organization > >> rejected the gender discrimination at universities and said, "Because of > >> some considerations, it is possible that through their annual tests > >> certain universities may admit only men or women to certain academic > >> fields, but this does not mean that student admission to these fields is > >> restricted to a specific gender because other universities follow their > >> own admission policies and applicants can apply to the same fields in > >> other universities." > >> > >> Seyed Jalal Tabatabai implicitly accepts the new decision of the > >> universities. "The need to admit students to > >> different fields is determined by universities and in principle this > >> decision is made on the basis of the needs and necessities of society. > >> Therefore, some fields in some years are only available to men or > >> women," he said. > >> > >> The director general for the spread of > >> education at the ministry of science, research and technology however is > >> more direct. "Universities draw up plans for the future of higher > >> education in the provinces and other parts of the country on the basis > >> of the results they obtain from the entrance exams and the state of > >> higher education in the past. They also consider their capacity and the > >> needs of society." Seyed Abolfazl Hassani added, "Some fields are not > >> very suitable for women's nature such as agricultural machinery or > >> mining, partly because of the hard work involved in them. Past > >> experience shows that women do not become professionally active in these > >> fields after they are admitted to these subjects and even after they > >> graduate. This results in unemployment of graduates." > >> > >> A few days after these remarks, however, the official was forced to change > >> his position and said, "Letters have > >> been sent to the heads of these universities to enquire about the > >> reasons for their decision. This is because if a university decides to > >> admit only men or women to specific academic programs, it must first > >> establish the necessary infrastructure for such a gender separation." > >> > >> Hossein Tavakoli, the senior advisor to > >> the entrance examination organization also announced that a new policy > >> directive had been issued which states that a new coding system for > >> academic subjects had been instituted in the organization which resolved > >> the issue of gender restrictions. > >> > >> Subjects OK Until Last Year, but Not Now > >> > >> Amid the corrections and announcements > >> by officials, Mehr news agency looked into the manual on subject > >> selection and concluded that the 36 universities do not carry master's > >> graduate programs for women in 77 specific fields. Last year, these very > >> universities had admitted women to the same subjects that are banned > >> today. > >> > >> For example, a university in Ardebil had 24 fields; one in Lorestan had 18 > >> fields and the International School > >> of Imam Khomeini had 15 fields had the most admittances only to men in > >> these 77 fields. > >> > >> Urban development engineering, urban > >> development with a major in surveillance at 15 universities had the > >> largest number of students reserved only for men. Following that came > >> management and mining engineering programs in 12 universities which only > >> admitted men to them. > >> > >> But academic subjects that are denied to women are not restricted to these > >> and others such as accounting, > >> education fields, restoration of historic buildings, pure chemistry etc > >> are also shut to women. > >> > >> In this regard, the Oil Industry University also announced that "at the > >> moment it did not have any need for women resources." > >> > >> The head of the public relations office > >> of this school announced that "the management of the oil industry did > >> not believe that the harsh conditions of operations in this field did > >> not make it suitable for women." He continued, "According to recent > >> surveys conducted by the public relations office of the Oil Industry > >> University, not all women students were satisfied with the fields and > >> conditions to which they had been admitted." According to him, between > >> the years 1939 and 2000 no women were admitted to this school. Since > >> 2000, women have been admitted to all programs except drilling. > >> > >> According to Khabar Online, Alame > >> Tabatabai University's course book booklet for this year has reserved > >> the following fields only for men: social work, accounting, industrial > >> management, and hotel management while reserving these fields for women: > >> education, political science, library science and information > >> dissemination. Chamran University of Ahvaz too has taken measures to > >> only admit men to its engineering programs. This denies women the > >> possibility of pursuing education in the fields of math and technical > >> sciences in that province. Since these two schools are the main > >> institutions of higher education in the province, the denial means that > >> women for the first time cannot study petroleum related subjects there. > >> This limitation does not exist for women in other universities such as > >> those in Tehran, Shiraz or Tabriz. This forces women who are interested > >> in these fields to move to other regions of the country which makes them > >> less competitive because of the strengths of the residents of those > >> provinces. > >> > >> Gender separation has been a serious > >> policy pursued by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's administration which has > >> repeatedly been defended by Kamran Daneshjoo, the minister of science. > >> The basis for this policy is the policy to separate men and women on > >> campuses. But the president's office has issued a special directive to > >> the minister of science and universities questioning the single-gender > >> classrooms that some universities had instituted and demanding that the > >> practice be stopped. But segregation continues at the institutions and > >> is even expanding as the new policies indicate. > >> > >> By Behrouz Samadbeighi > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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