Dan sunni syiah yang biadab dan dungu-dungu kayak anjing terus aja asyik berbunuhan...
Sedangkan gereja katolik Roma dan gereja anggota WCC menolak kekerasan... --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > Dungu itu elo! > > Itu bedanya orang yang ngarti arti interpretasi kayak gw dan orang dungu > protestan busuk kayak elo. > > Syiah dan sunni terjadi karena adanya interpretasi yang berbeda terhadap > sumber yang sama : alquran & sunnah. Demikian juga protestan dan katolik > memiliki interpretasi yang tidaksama tentang ajaran yesus. > > Perbedaan interpretasi akan mengakibatkan perbedaan implementasi. > > > Elo boleh boleh aja ngaku protestan, tapi interpretasi elo terhadap ajaran > alkitap telah membuat elo jadi manusia yang sangat busuk. Saya punya banyak > saudara penganut protestan yang berahlak mulia dan saya hormati. > > Jangan malu2 in yesus tem! > > Salam, > pinpin > islam protestan > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > Dungu, patokan Islam itu adalah Quran dan sunnah, bukan mayoritas muslim > > indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:34 AM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable for > > >Women > > > > > > > > > > > >Mari bicara tentang iran . . . > > >Tanya sama mayoritas muslim indonesia : "apakah syiah itu sejalan dengan > > >ajaran islam? " orang2 sunni akan mengatakan adanya ncr atawa > > >ketidaksesuaian antara ajaran islam dengan syiah. Yang ngomong pasti ULAMA > > >sunni. Bukan ustad supergoblok yang bernama item > > > > > >masalah sertifikat iso lagi2 elo berhasil menunjukkan kegoblokan elo. > > >Sertifikat sama sertifikasi itu beda gobloooookkkkkk! > > > > > >Elo ikut kelas, elo dapat sertifikat. Tapi meskipun elo punya 1000 > > >sertifikat yang menerangkan elo pernah belajar iso, elo belum tentu dapet > > >sertifikasi dari badan akreditasi. > > > > > >Iso dan kompetitif? > > >Elo selalu berhasil menunjukkan kegoblokan elo. Iso 9001 itu sistem > > >dokumentasi bos . . .masalah kemampuan perusahaan untuk berkompetisi itu > > >urusan lain. > > > > > >Saya islam. > > >Saya suka protes karena islam mengajarka saya untuk kritis. > > > > > >Islam protestan jadinya. > > > > > >Elo kresten protestan ya? > > >Bikin aja lagi kresten protestan protestan > > > > > >masalah nama aja kok diributin. > > > > > >Kasihan. > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hehehe.... jadi lu bukan ulama Islam, tp lu bisa kaing2 bhw Saudi atau > > >> Iran itu ga ngeimplementasikan ajaran Islam. Betul2 dungu lu ini. > > >> > > >> > > >> Buat dpt sertifikat kibulan ISO sih ga ada susahnya, lu bayar aja unt > > >> ikut kelasnya, lalu lu dpt sertifikatnya. Ga ada yg perlu dibanggakan. > > >> > > >> Faktanya, implementasi ISO dll itu cuma akal2an unt nipuin duit dr > > >> perusahaan, hasilnya apa? Lihat aja perusahaan Indonesia, mana ada > > >> perusahaan yg betul2 kompetitif, bersih dan jujur? Itu hasil kerja lu? > > >> Omong kosong doang semuanya. > > >> > > >> > > >> Lu ga tau apa2 ttg ajaran islam, kalo lu mau ngarang bikin agama > > >> sendiri, jangan nyatut nama Islam dan jangan jg nyatut nama Protestan. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:21 AM > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable for > > >> >Women > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >à> > >> >Lu tanya gue siapa? > > >> >Aku punya sertifikat kompetensi ISO 9001, pengalaman lebih dari 14 > > >> >tahun dalam bidang implementasi sistem manajemen dan -jelas- memiliki > > >> >kompetensi dalam hal penerapan dan audit serta pengembangan sistem > > >> >secara terus menerus dan berkesinambungan. > > >> > > > >> >Dalam hal implementasi klausul "kebersihan sebagian dari iman" maka > > >> >singapore, australia, jauh lebih islami dibanding iran atawa afganistan. > > >> > > > >> >Dalam hal implementasi "manusia yang paling baik adalah manusia yang > > >> >paling bermanfaat bagi manusia lain." maka albert einstein, bill gate, > > >> >thomas alfa edison, sidharta gautama, adalah jauh lebih islami > > >> >dibanding manusia2 najis berbaju gamis berjenggot panjang dan rajin > > >> >shalat namun pada saat bersamaan jago korupsi, senang makan harta anak > > >> >yatim > > >> > > > >> >elo siapa tem? > > >> > > > >> >Nddak lebih dari penjaga game online yang dapet orderan untuk > > >> >memprovokasi dengan modal cut paste dengan bayaran sekian perak per > > >> >klik. > > >> > > > >> >Manusia yang tiada guna. > > >> > > > >> >Sama seperti guru kamu yang di holland. Tak lebih dari sekedar sampah. > > >> > > > >> >Kasihan. > > >> > > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Emangnya, lu ini siapa shg bisa bilang ajaran Islam ga > > >> >> diimplementasikan di Iran, Afghan atau Arab Saudi? > > >> >> > > >> >> Lu ini kan cuma lulusan pesantren yg percaya kibulan kafir kayak > > >> >> Maurice Bucaille, lu bukan ulama Arab atau Iran yg udah belajar Islam > > >> >> selama puluhan thn. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >________________________________ > > >> >> > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:51 PM > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable > > >> >> >for Women > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Ãâà> > >> >> >Tem, kan elo yang bilang kalau arap saudi itu bukan negara islam. > > >> >> >Kan elo yang bilang itumah kerajaan keluarga saud . . . ! > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Afganistan dan iran negara islam? please deh . . . Saat rasul > > >> >> >ditanya ya rasul, apakah madinah itu ? Rasul menjawab madinah adalah > > >> >> >tempat dimana ajran islam itu tegak (terimplementasi) > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Tempat dalam konteks negara yang telah relative berhasil > > >> >> >mengaplikasikan ajaran islam tentang kebersihan adalah sebagian dari > > >> >> >iman diantaranya singapore . . . Ostrali. . . Brunei . . > > >> >> > > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Gua yakin si arra_s pasti pengen setengah mati unt hidup di negara > > >> >> >> Islam spt Iran atau Arab Saudi. Atau mungkin Afghanistan adalah > > >> >> >> tempat yg paling ideal. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> 77 Academic Subjects Announced Not Suitable for Women > > >> >> >> Wednesday, 08 August 2012 > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The 935,000 applicants to Iranian > > >> >> >> universities for the next academic year face unprecedented gender > > >> >> >> discrimination in some study subjects. > > >> >> >> Mohabat News -- Rooz Online reports, New previously un-announced > > >> >> >> restrictions are barring > > >> >> >> women from pursuing certain university studies. Most of these > > >> >> >> academic > > >> >> >> programs are generally in the engineering fields which until last > > >> >> >> year > > >> >> >> were equally open to men and women. With the new regulations, some > > >> >> >> 77 > > >> >> >> specific academic fields at the graduate level will be denied to > > >> >> >> women > > >> >> >> in the country's 36 government universities. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> From 28 to 30 June this year some 1 > > >> >> >> million and 660 thousand applicants took the national university > > >> >> >> entrance examinations in Iran. From amongst them over 935,000 of > > >> >> >> the > > >> >> >> accepted applicants must announce their specific field of study to > > >> >> >> the > > >> >> >> national educational evaluation organization by August 13 and then > > >> >> >> wait > > >> >> >> for confirmation from the agency. Until a few days ago the wide > > >> >> >> participation of women in four groups: empirical sciences, the > > >> >> >> human > > >> >> >> sciences, the arts and foreign languages dominated the news. > > >> >> >> Today, the > > >> >> >> wide and unannounced gender discrimination is the news topic of > > >> >> >> the day. Responses to the new restrictions have been so extensive > > >> >> >> that even the > > >> >> >> Ministry of Education's academic evaluation organization has taken > > >> >> >> a > > >> >> >> position against it and it appears that a review and reversal of > > >> >> >> the > > >> >> >> decision may be in the making. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The testing deputy of the organization > > >> >> >> rejected the gender discrimination at universities and said, > > >> >> >> "Because of some considerations, it is possible that through their > > >> >> >> annual tests > > >> >> >> certain universities may admit only men or women to certain > > >> >> >> academic > > >> >> >> fields, but this does not mean that student admission to these > > >> >> >> fields is restricted to a specific gender because other > > >> >> >> universities follow their own admission policies and applicants > > >> >> >> can apply to the same fields in > > >> >> >> other universities." > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Seyed Jalal Tabatabai implicitly accepts the new decision of the > > >> >> >> universities. "The need to admit students to > > >> >> >> different fields is determined by universities and in principle > > >> >> >> this > > >> >> >> decision is made on the basis of the needs and necessities of > > >> >> >> society. > > >> >> >> Therefore, some fields in some years are only available to men or > > >> >> >> women," he said. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The director general for the spread of > > >> >> >> education at the ministry of science, research and technology > > >> >> >> however is more direct. "Universities draw up plans for the future > > >> >> >> of higher > > >> >> >> education in the provinces and other parts of the country on the > > >> >> >> basis > > >> >> >> of the results they obtain from the entrance exams and the state > > >> >> >> of > > >> >> >> higher education in the past. They also consider their capacity > > >> >> >> and the > > >> >> >> needs of society." Seyed Abolfazl Hassani added, "Some fields are > > >> >> >> not > > >> >> >> very suitable for women's nature such as agricultural machinery or > > >> >> >> mining, partly because of the hard work involved in them. Past > > >> >> >> experience shows that women do not become professionally active in > > >> >> >> these fields after they are admitted to these subjects and even > > >> >> >> after they > > >> >> >> graduate. This results in unemployment of graduates." > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> A few days after these remarks, however, the official was forced > > >> >> >> to change his position and said, "Letters have > > >> >> >> been sent to the heads of these universities to enquire about the > > >> >> >> reasons for their decision. This is because if a university > > >> >> >> decides to > > >> >> >> admit only men or women to specific academic programs, it must > > >> >> >> first > > >> >> >> establish the necessary infrastructure for such a gender > > >> >> >> separation." > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Hossein Tavakoli, the senior advisor to > > >> >> >> the entrance examination organization also announced that a new > > >> >> >> policy > > >> >> >> directive had been issued which states that a new coding system > > >> >> >> for > > >> >> >> academic subjects had been instituted in the organization which > > >> >> >> resolved the issue of gender restrictions. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Subjects OK Until Last Year, but Not Now > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Amid the corrections and announcements > > >> >> >> by officials, Mehr news agency looked into the manual on subject > > >> >> >> selection and concluded that the 36 universities do not carry > > >> >> >> master's > > >> >> >> graduate programs for women in 77 specific fields. Last year, > > >> >> >> these very universities had admitted women to the same subjects > > >> >> >> that are banned > > >> >> >> today. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> For example, a university in Ardebil had 24 fields; one in > > >> >> >> Lorestan had 18 fields and the International School > > >> >> >> of Imam Khomeini had 15 fields had the most admittances only to > > >> >> >> men in > > >> >> >> these 77 fields. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Urban development engineering, urban > > >> >> >> development with a major in surveillance at 15 universities had > > >> >> >> the > > >> >> >> largest number of students reserved only for men. Following that > > >> >> >> came > > >> >> >> management and mining engineering programs in 12 universities > > >> >> >> which only admitted men to them. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> But academic subjects that are denied to women are not restricted > > >> >> >> to these and others such as accounting, > > >> >> >> education fields, restoration of historic buildings, pure > > >> >> >> chemistry etc > > >> >> >> are also shut to women. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> In this regard, the Oil Industry University also announced that > > >> >> >> "at the moment it did not have any need for women resources." > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The head of the public relations office > > >> >> >> of this school announced that "the management of the oil industry > > >> >> >> did > > >> >> >> not believe that the harsh conditions of operations in this field > > >> >> >> did > > >> >> >> not make it suitable for women." He continued, "According to > > >> >> >> recent > > >> >> >> surveys conducted by the public relations office of the Oil > > >> >> >> Industry > > >> >> >> University, not all women students were satisfied with the fields > > >> >> >> and > > >> >> >> conditions to which they had been admitted." According to him, > > >> >> >> between > > >> >> >> the years 1939 and 2000 no women were admitted to this school. > > >> >> >> Since > > >> >> >> 2000, women have been admitted to all programs except drilling. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> According to Khabar Online, Alame > > >> >> >> Tabatabai University's course book booklet for this year has > > >> >> >> reserved > > >> >> >> the following fields only for men: social work, accounting, > > >> >> >> industrial > > >> >> >> management, and hotel management while reserving these fields for > > >> >> >> women: education, political science, library science and > > >> >> >> information > > >> >> >> dissemination. Chamran University of Ahvaz too has taken measures > > >> >> >> to > > >> >> >> only admit men to its engineering programs. This denies women the > > >> >> >> possibility of pursuing education in the fields of math and > > >> >> >> technical > > >> >> >> sciences in that province. Since these two schools are the main > > >> >> >> institutions of higher education in the province, the denial means > > >> >> >> that > > >> >> >> women for the first time cannot study petroleum related subjects > > >> >> >> there. > > >> >> >> This limitation does not exist for women in other universities > > >> >> >> such as > > >> >> >> those in Tehran, Shiraz or Tabriz. This forces women who are > > >> >> >> interested > > >> >> >> in these fields to move to other regions of the country which > > >> >> >> makes them less competitive because of the strengths of the > > >> >> >> residents of those > > >> >> >> provinces. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Gender separation has been a serious > > >> >> >> policy pursued by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's administration which has > > >> >> >> repeatedly been defended by Kamran Daneshjoo, the minister of > > >> >> >> science. > > >> >> >> The basis for this policy is the policy to separate men and women > > >> >> >> on > > >> >> >> campuses. But the president's office has issued a special > > >> >> >> directive to > > >> >> >> the minister of science and universities questioning the > > >> >> >> single-gender > > >> >> >> classrooms that some universities had instituted and demanding > > >> >> >> that the > > >> >> >> practice be stopped. But segregation continues at the institutions > > >> >> >> and > > >> >> >> is even expanding as the new policies indicate. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> By Behrouz Samadbeighi > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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