Dan seperti biasa, setelah keleleran ketangkap basah pamer kedunguannnya mlajka Pinpin muter-muter sambil jungkir balik...
Saya ulang menyampaikan.. Dan seperti biasanya setelah ketangkap basah nggak tahu arti kata agnostik, Pinpin muter-muter dan jungkir balik... Kali ini dia jungkir balikin perkataan Einstein yang jelas-jelas bilang "The WORD GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of human weaknesses," disejejarkannnya dengan omongan keliru Einstein yang bilang: "When God created the ass he gave him a thick skin." .. --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > eh si koplok, apanan yang bilang > "When God created the ass he gave him a thick skin." .. > > Siapa coba ? > Elo pikir yang ngomong itu Abbas Amin gitu ? > > Koplok ! > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dan seperti biasanya setelah ketangkap basah nggak tahu arti kata agnostik, > > Pinpin muter-muter dan jungkir balik... > > > > Kali ini dia jungkir balikin perkataan Einstein yang jelas-jelas bilang > > "The WORD GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of > > human weaknesses," disejejarkannnya dengan omongan keliru Einstein yang > > bilang: "When God created the ass he gave him a thick skin." .. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Jadi di sini ke KOPLOK an elo plik ... > > > Baca pelan pelan ... > > > > > > "The WORD GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of > > > human weaknesses," > > > > > > Baca sekali lagi plok ! > > > > > > Kata TUHAN bagi sayah ... kagak lebih dari ekspresi dan produk kelemahan > > > manusia ... > > > > > > BEDA kalau einstein nulis : > > > "GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of human > > > weaknesses," > > > > > > Jadi, ... Kata "The WORD GOD ( Bukan "God" )is for me Nothing More Than > > > the expression and product of human weaknesses," sejalan dengan kata - > > > kata einstein yang ini ni .. > > > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi, agnostisme itu: > > > > > > > > "The view that the existence of God or of all deities is unknown, > > > > unknowable, unproven, or unprovable." > > > > > > > > Sedangkan Einstein berkata: "The word God is for me nothing more than > > > > the expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ni Baca Plik ... > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnosticism > > > > > > > > > > Bandingkan dengan konsep Islam ... > > > > > > > > > > Tuhan - tuhan itu kagak ade ! > > > > > Yang ade itu cuma al-illah > > > > > Al-Illah ? > > > > > is unknown, unknowable, unproven, or unprovable. ! > > > > > > > > > > Cocok pan ? > > > > > > > > > > Makanya jadi orang Mosti cerdas Plik ... ;-) > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpin yang sedeng menulis: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, > > > > > > tapi dia percaya adanya Tuhan . > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > > > Nih baca: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnostic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, > > > > > > > tapi dia percaya adanya Tuhan . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hal ini jadinya masuk akal, . Kita manusia hanya bisa menebak > > > > > > > nebak saja. Tidak ada yang menjamin kebenaran agama 100%, kecuali > > > > > > > tentu saja, oleh penganut agama itu sendiri :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau Tuhan dianggap tidak ada, kok ada saya ?. Kalau dianggap > > > > > > > ada, terus bagaimana membuktikannya ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aku tidak menganggap bahwa disebut agnostic adalah hinaan, > > > > > > > tetapi itu lebih merupakan pujian. Aku tidak berpura-pura tahu > > > > > > > ketika banyak orang yang tidak tahu justru yakin." (Clarence > > > > > > > Darrow (1857 1938)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aku percaya bahwa kebahagiaan adalah satu-satunya hal baik, dan > > > > > > > cara untuk bisa bahagia adalah membuat orang lain bahagia " > > > > > > > (Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899).) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Para agnostic mengatakan, bahwa agnostic adalah pilihan paling > > > > > > > logis daripada Teis ataupun Ateis. Karena mereka menganggap > > > > > > > ajaran Teis ( agama ) adalah sesuatu yang tidak logis. Ajaran > > > > > > > tersebut cenderung dipergunakan untuk kepentingan kelompok > > > > > > > kelompok. Susahnya lagi, Teis kalau dikritik, malah ngamuk. > > > > > > > Kadang diantara orang beragama menggunakan agamanya untuk men > > > > > > > justifikasi ( memberikan cap ) orang orang yang tak sepaham atau > > > > > > > orang yang tak disukai. Tentu saja justifikasi yang mereka > > > > > > > berikan pasti nama jelek, atau menjelekan. Bukankah itu sama > > > > > > > dengan fitnah ?, meng-atas namakan agama. Misalnya, bid'ah, > > > > > > > kafir, murtad dsb. Jadi untuk apa ribet ribet menggunakan aturan > > > > > > > aturan agama kalau pada akhirnya kita meng kafirkan dan memusuhi > > > > > > > orang lain ? Kenyataanya memang itulah yang terjadi, banyak orang > > > > > > > beragama membuat orang lain menjadi bisa dijauhi orang lainnya, > > > > > > > berimbas pada pergaulan sosialnya, kondisi kehidupan orang > > > > > > > tersebut menjadi terhambat. Hanya karena kata kata ( fatwa ) sang > > > > > > > tokoh agama. Kalau sudah begitu , siapakah yang layak masuk > > > > > > > neraka ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], ayub yahya <ayubyahya@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pig... Einstein tuh agnostik, percaya adanya tuhan tapi "tuhan > > > > > > > > yang tidak sebatas seperti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yang tertulis di alkitab ato al-quran" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleh einstein, tuhan disebutkan sebagai 'kekuatan misterius' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > baca nih ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain > > > > > > > > laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds > > > > > > > > grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > themysterious force bebas aja di tafsirkan.... boleh faktor X, > > > > > > > > boleh god, boleh allah, boleh tuhan, > > > > > > > > boleh dewa... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang > > > > > > > > ditulisnya dengan tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya > > > > > > > > ketika dia masih mencari-cari jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak > > > > > > > > bersumber dari tulisan tangannnya sendiri.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul > > > > > > > > doang.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein and Religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following quotes are taken from The Quotable Einstein, > > > > > > > > > Princeton University Press unless otherwise noted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the > > > > > > > > > illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight > > > > > > > > > details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble > > > > > > > > > minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a > > > > > > > > > superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the > > > > > > > > > incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, > > > > > > > > > Princeton University Press) > > > > > > > > > "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a > > > > > > > > > pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering > > > > > > > > > a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child > > > > > > > > > knows someone must have written those books. It does not know > > > > > > > > > how. It does not understand the languages in which they are > > > > > > > > > written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the > > > > > > > > > arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, > > > > > > > > > it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent > > > > > > > > > human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously > > > > > > > > > arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand > > > > > > > > > these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that > > > > > > > > > moves the constellations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from The Quotable Einstein) > > > > > > > > > "Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached > > > > > > > > > an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of > > > > > > > > > popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that > > > > > > > > > much in the stories of the Bible could not be > > > > > > > > > true....Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of > > > > > > > > > this experience...an attitude which has never left me." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of > > > > > > > > > the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our > > > > > > > > > inadequate senses to appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science > > > > > > > > > is blind." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects > > > > > > > > > of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a > > > > > > > > > God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. It > > > > > > > > > is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life > > > > > > > > > perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the > > > > > > > > > marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly > > > > > > > > > perceive and to try humbly to comprehend even an > > > > > > > > > infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in Nature." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal > > > > > > > > > causation. His religious feeling takes the form of a > > > > > > > > > rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which > > > > > > > > > reveals an intelligence of such superiority that , compared > > > > > > > > > with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human > > > > > > > > > beings is an utterly insignificant reflection." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ". . . In spite of all this, I don't let a single opportunity > > > > > > > > > pass unheeded, nor have I lost my sense of humor. When God > > > > > > > > > created the ass he gave him a thick skin." Einstein: The Life > > > > > > > > > and Times by Ronald W. Clark, Avon Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Where dull-witted clansmen of our tribe were praying aloud, > > > > > > > > > their faces turned to the wall, their bodies swaying to and > > > > > > > > > fro. A pathetic sight of men with a past but without a > > > > > > > > > future." (Regarding his visit to the Wailing Wall in > > > > > > > > > Jerusalem, February 3, 1923) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and > > > > > > > > > honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely > > > > > > > > > nothing during our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all > > > > > > > > > that will come to us." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I appeal to all men and women, whether they be eminent or > > > > > > > > > humble, to declare that they will refuse to give any further > > > > > > > > > assistance to war or the preparation of war." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It is my belief that the problem of bringing peace to the > > > > > > > > > world on a supranational basis will be solved only by > > > > > > > > > employing Gandhi's method on a larger scale." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, > > > > > > > > > regarding Einstein's development of the theory of general > > > > > > > > > relativity. It's taken from the outstanding book Einstein and > > > > > > > > > Religion by Max Jammer. It's originally taken from Charles > > > > > > > > > Chaplin's autobiography and widely quoted in journals, bios > > > > > > > > > and even as the conference calls for papers about Einstein's > > > > > > > > > most famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Doctor came down in his dressing gown as usual for > > > > > > > > > breakfast but he hardly touched a thing. I thought something > > > > > > > > > was wrong, so I asked what was troubling him. "Darling," he > > > > > > > > > said, "I have a wonderful idea." And after drinking his > > > > > > > > > coffee, he went to the piano and started playing. Now and > > > > > > > > > again he would stop, making a few notes then repeat: "I've > > > > > > > > > got a wonderful idea, a marvelous idea!" I said: "Then for > > > > > > > > > goodness' sake tell me what it is, don't keep me in > > > > > > > > > suspense." He said: "It's difficult, I still have to work it > > > > > > > > > out." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She told me he continued playing the piano and making notes > > > > > > > > > for about half an hour, then went upstairs to his study, > > > > > > > > > telling her that he did not wish to be disturbed, and > > > > > > > > > remained there for two weeks. "Each day I sent him up his > > > > > > > > > meals," she said, "and in the evening he would walk a little > > > > > > > > > for exercise, then return to his work again. Eventually," she > > > > > > > > > said, "he came down from his study looking very pale. "That's > > > > > > > > > it," he told me, wearily putting two sheets of paper on the > > > > > > > > > table. And that was his theory of relativity." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begitu jelas dia bilang "The word God is for me nothing > > > > > > > > > > more than the expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein Itu Deism Plik ... Bukan Atheism ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coba tengok ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in > > > > > > > > > > > awe of the structure of the world, insofar as it allows > > > > > > > > > > > our inadequate senses to appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without > > > > > > > > > > > science is blind." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baca di sini .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's > > > > > > > > > > > wife, regarding Einstein's development of the theory of > > > > > > > > > > > general relativity. It's taken from the outstanding book > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer. It's originally > > > > > > > > > > > taken from Charles Chaplin's autobiography and widely > > > > > > > > > > > quoted in journals, bios and even as the conference calls > > > > > > > > > > > for papers about Einstein's most famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Einstein itu bilang semua agama itu cuman takhayul > > > > > > > > > > > > doang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan yang ngomong itu bukan orang sedeng munafik, tukang > > > > > > > > > > > > fitnah dan tukang nyabo kayak suryana, tapi orang > > > > > > > > > > > > pinter... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar jelas: omongan Einstein itu layak direnungkan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Selanjutnya saya kutip pendapat Hawking: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When Sawyer asked if there was a way to reconcile > > > > > > > > > > > > religion and science, Hawking said, "There is a > > > > > > > > > > > > fundamental difference between religion, which is based > > > > > > > > > > > > on authority, [and] science, which is based on > > > > > > > > > > > > observation and reason. Science will win because it > > > > > > > > > > > > works." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Technology/stephen-hawking-religion-science-win/story?id=10830164#.UHkEffcTmSo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "suryana" <gsuryana@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe bloon surat Einstein pada dasarnya masih > > > > > > > > > > > > > ambigu, sayang pengertian > > > > > > > > > > > > > ambigu tidak bisa dimengerti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein ingin atheis, siapa yg melarang ?, apa > > > > > > > > > > > > > karena jenius maka harus > > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi atheis, lha disini ada binatang yg otaknya di > > > > > > > > > > > > > peler, boro boro jenius, > > > > > > > > > > > > > jauh panggang dari api. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yg menjadi pointku mengirim bukan karena isi > > > > > > > > > > > > > suratnya, melainkan koq ada > > > > > > > > > > > > > orang mau beli surat tsb dengan harga yg bisa > > > > > > > > > > > > > dibelikan sikat gigi elektrik > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan jam tangan ber gps masing masing puluhan > > > > > > > > > > > > > kontainer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "muskitawati" <muskitawati@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi semua orang2 tua yang ingin anaknya seperti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein agar menjauhkan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > racun2 yang merusak otak anaknya tentang klenik2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > penyembahan Allah, Tuhan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dewa dewi, dan mistik2 lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hal ini terutama sangat penting bagi umat Islam dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mereka yang hidup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dalam lingkungan yang Islam. Karena kerusakan otak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini bukan hanya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menyangkut dirinya melainkan juga bangsa dan negara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ei > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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