Nyali lu pasti lebih ciut dari pinhole. Buktinya lu main caplok aja tanpa berani tanya, "mana buktinya..."
--- "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > Nih..baca... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Collins > > Saya kutip.. > > "Collins also wrote the New York Times bestseller, The Language of > God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief, which discusses > Collins' conversion from atheism to Christianity, evaluates the > evidence for Christianity, and argues for theistic evolution.[2] > > --- "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > Aku heran wong Kristen kok gak ada yg ngeclaim ada ilmuwan yg > > menjadi kristen krn ayat Alkitab,but Islam.Jadi Alkitab kalah > > canggih ya TEM. > > > > Paulus Anak Wedus. > > > > --- itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > Orang itu saling bekajar dr orang lain, itu normal. > > > > > > Tp orang Islam ngaku Quran sbg sumber iptek atau segala macam > > > kibulan lainnya. Lalu, penemuan iptek apa yg bersumber dr > > > QUran? Kagak ada tuh. > > > > > > Kl dr hadis sih masih ada, misalnya air wudhu lalat atau > > > kencing onta sbg obat. Cuma ga dimanfaatkan aja oleh orang > > > Islam krn mereka ogah unt mati sbg syuhada. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > Ya ketika itu orang Islam belajar dari kafir, seperti dari > > > > ilmuwan dan filsuf Yunani.. > > > > > > > > Dan jangan lupa: angka nol itu adalah fikirn orang India... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalo ada ilmuwan orang Islam di TImTeng jaman dulu, itu ga > > > > > ada hubungan dgn Islam, krn di TimTeng itu iptek udh > > > > > relatif berkembang, jadi iptek yg ada di sana bukan dr > > > > > Islam, tp dr peradaban yg udh ada di situ sebelum ada > > > > > Islam. > > > > > > > > > > Islam itulah yg mematikan iptek di TimTeng. Makanya waktu > > > > > Eropa bangkit dr jaman kegelapan, dunia Arab kembali ke > > > > > jaman batu persis spt apa yg ada di gurun Arab dimana ga > > > > > ada apa2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Omar moyo moyo <omarmoyo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Mana dia tahu kalau Alhazen itu tempat Ilmuawan belajar > > > > > > bikin pinhole,Slr hingga,digital camera...masalahnya > > > > > > itutuh........... > > > > > > ............Dia nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan > > > > > > ilmuwan, melainkan ustat palsu, hehe.. > > > > > > ============================ > > > > > > > > > > > > In the 10th century, Persian scientist Ibn al-Haytham > > > > > > (Alhazen) wrote about naturally-occurring rudimentary > > > > > > pinhole cameras. > > > > > > For example, light may travel through the slits of wicker > > > > > > baskets or the crossing of tree leaves.[2] (The circular > > > > > > dapples on a forest floor, actually pinhole images of the > > > > > > sun, can be seen to have a bite taken out of them during > > > > > > partial solar eclipses opposite to the position of the > > > > > > moon's actual occultation of the sun because of the > > > > > > inverting effect of pinhole lenses.) > > > > > > Alhazen published this idea in the Book of Optics in 1021 > > > > > > AD. He improved on the camera after realizing that the > > > > > > smaller the pinhole, the sharper the image (though the > > > > > > less light). He provides the first clear description for > > > > > > construction of a camera obscura (Lat. dark chamber). > > > > > > In the 5th century BC, the Mohist philosopher Mozi (墨å) > > > > > > in ancient China mentioned the effect of an inverted > > > > > > image forming through a pinhole.[3] The image of an > > > > > > inverted Chinese pagoda is mentioned in Duan Chengshi's > > > > > > (d. 863) book Miscellaneous Morsels from Youyang written > > > > > > during the Tang Dynasty (618â"907).[4] Along with > > > > > > experimenting with the pinhole camera and the burning > > > > > > mirror of the ancient Mohists, the Song Dynasty > > > > > > (960â"1279 CE) Chinese scientist Shen Kuo (1031â"1095) > > > > > > experimented with camera obscura and was the first to > > > > > > establish geometrical and quantitative attributes for > > > > > > it.[4] > > > > > > > > > > > > Ancient pinhole camera effect caused by balistrarias in > > > > > > the Castelgrande in Bellinzona In the 13th century, > > > > > > Robert Grosseteste and Roger Bacon commented on the > > > > > > pinhole camera.[5] Between 1000 and 1600, men such as Ibn > > > > > > al-Haytham, Gemma Frisius, and Giambattista della Porta > > > > > > wrote on the pinhole camera, explaining why the images > > > > > > are upside down. > > > > > > Around 1600, Giambattista della Porta added a lens to the > > > > > > pinhole camera.[6][7] It was not until 1850 that a > > > > > > Scottish scientist by the name of Sir David Brewster > > > > > > actually took the first photograph with a pinhole camera. > > > > > > Up until recently it was believed that Brewster himself > > > > > > coined the term "Pinhole" in "The Stereoscope"[citation > > > > > > needed]. The earliest reference to the term "Pinhole" has > > > > > > been traced back to almost a century before Brewster to > > > > > > James Ferguson's Lectures on select Subjects.[8][9] Sir > > > > > > William Crookes and William de Wiveleslie Abney were > > > > > > other early photographers to try the pinhole technique. > > > > > > [10] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ajeg <ajegilelu@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nggak ada yang perlu diributkan ketika ilmuwan Barat > > > > > > > menghormati dan memakai buah pemikiran Al-Haytham (bukan > > > > > > > alitem) atau yang mereka kenal sebagai Alhazen. Lu kira > > > > > > > yang namanya lensa, mikroskop, dan segala perkara optik > > > > > > > itu berawal dari pemikiran siapa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Di kalangan ilmuwan Barat, Alhazen malah disebut sebagai > > > > > > > ilmuwan pertama. Alias orang pertama yang menyusun teori > > > > > > > berdasarkan metode ilmiah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan ilmuwan, > > > > > > > melainkan ustat palsu, hehe... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knp ga ada "ilmuwan" muslim yg dijadikan referensi? > > > > > > > > Krn yg nongol cuma kekonyolan doang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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