Nih ada contoh "ilmu" di khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu... "Dan Dia menancapkan gunung-gunung di bumi supaya bumi itu tidak goncang bersama kamu, (dan Dia menciptakan) sungai-sungai dan jalan-jalan agar kamu mendapat petunjuk. (An Nahl, 16:15)"
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: > > Orang itu saling bekajar dr orang lain, itu normal. > > Tp orang Islam ngaku Quran sbg sumber iptek atau segala macam kibulan > lainnya. Lalu, penemuan iptek apa yg bersumber dr QUran? Kagak ada tuh. > > Kl dr hadis sih masih ada, misalnya air wudhu lalat atau kencing onta sbg > obat. Cuma ga dimanfaatkan aja oleh orang Islam krn mereka ogah unt mati > sbg syuhada. > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Ya ketika itu orang Islam belajar dari kafir, seperti dari ilmuwan dan > > filsuf Yunani.. > > > > Dan jangan lupa: angka nol itu adalah fikirn orang India... > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > Kalo ada ilmuwan orang Islam di TImTeng jaman dulu, itu ga ada hubungan > > > dgn Islam, krn di TimTeng itu iptek udh relatif berkembang, jadi iptek yg > > > ada di sana bukan dr Islam, tp dr peradaban yg udh ada di situ sebelum > > ada > > > Islam. > > > > > > Islam itulah yg mematikan iptek di TimTeng. Makanya waktu Eropa bangkit > > dr > > > jaman kegelapan, dunia Arab kembali ke jaman batu persis spt apa yg ada > > di > > > gurun Arab dimana ga ada apa2. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Omar moyo moyo <omarmoyo@> wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mana dia tahu kalau Alhazen itu tempat Ilmuawan belajar > > > > bikin pinhole,Slr hingga,digital camera...masalahnya itutuh........... > > > > ............Dia nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan ilmuwan, > > > > melainkan ustat palsu, hehe.. > > > > ============================ > > > > > > > > In the 10th century, Persian scientist Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen) wrote > > > > about naturally-occurring rudimentary pinhole cameras. > > > > For example, light may travel through the slits of wicker baskets or > > the > > > > crossing of tree leaves.[2] (The circular dapples on a forest floor, > > > > actually pinhole images of the sun, can be seen to have a bite taken > > out of > > > > them during partial solar > > > > eclipses opposite to the position of the moon's actual occultation of > > > > the sun because of the inverting effect of pinhole lenses.) > > > > Alhazen published this idea in the Book of Optics in 1021 AD. He > > improved > > > > on the camera after realizing that the smaller > > > > the pinhole, the sharper the image (though the less light). He provides > > > > the first clear description for construction of a camera obscura (Lat. > > > > dark chamber). > > > > In the 5th century BC, the Mohist philosopher Mozi (墨å ) in ancient > > China > > > > > > mentioned the effect of an inverted image forming through a > > pinhole.[3] The > > > > image of an inverted Chinese pagoda is mentioned in Duan Chengshi's (d. > > > > 863) book Miscellaneous Morsels from Youyang written during the Tang > > > > Dynasty (618â"907).[4] Along with experimenting with the pinhole > > camera and > > > > the burning mirror of the ancient Mohists, the Song Dynasty > > (960â"1279 CE) > > > > Chinese scientist Shen Kuo (1031â"1095) experimented with camera > > obscura and > > > > > > was the first to establish geometrical and quantitative attributes for > > > > it.[4] > > > > > > > > > > > > Ancient pinhole camera effect caused by balistrarias in the > > Castelgrande > > > > in Bellinzona > > > > In the 13th century, Robert Grosseteste and Roger Bacon commented on > > the > > > > pinhole camera.[5] Between 1000 and 1600, men such as Ibn al-Haytham, > > Gemma > > > > Frisius, and Giambattista della Porta wrote on the pinhole camera, > > > > explaining why the images are upside down. > > > > Around 1600, Giambattista della Porta added a lens to the pinhole > > > > camera.[6][7] It was not until 1850 that a Scottish scientist by the > > name > > > > of Sir David Brewster actually took the first photograph with a pinhole > > > > camera. Up until > > > > recently it was believed that Brewster himself coined the term > > "Pinhole" > > > > in "The Stereoscope"[citation needed]. The earliest reference to the > > term > > > > "Pinhole" has been traced back to > > > > almost a century before Brewster to James Ferguson's Lectures on select > > > > Subjects.[8][9] Sir William Crookes and William de Wiveleslie Abney > > were > > > > other early photographers to try the pinhole technique.[10] > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: ajeg <ajegilelu@> > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:48 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Ilmuwan2 yg mualaf krn Riset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nggak ada yang perlu diributkan ketika ilmuwan Barat > > > > menghormati dan memakai buah pemikiran Al-Haytham (bukan > > > > alitem) atau yang mereka kenal sebagai Alhazen. Lu kira > > > > yang namanya lensa, mikroskop, dan segala perkara optik itu > > > > berawal dari pemikiran siapa? > > > > > > > > Di kalangan ilmuwan Barat, Alhazen malah disebut sebagai > > > > ilmuwan pertama. Alias orang pertama yang menyusun teori > > > > berdasarkan metode ilmiah. > > > > > > > > Lu nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan ilmuwan, > > > > melainkan ustat palsu, hehe... > > > > > > > > --- itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Knp ga ada "ilmuwan" muslim yg dijadikan referensi? Krn yg nongol > > > > > cuma kekonyolan doang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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