Anda itu bukan sekedar dungu Tawang, and jelas sudah gila... Tahun 2013 anda masih melahap bualan orang Islam yang rata-rata tukang kibul itu membual tentng tuisan Frank Pres itu...
Baca nih.. http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/mountains_pegs.html --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@...> wrote: > > Jangan menyalahkan gunungnya kalau didekat gunung goyang2.Itu podo wae wong > bodo yg ngira Dokterlah yg bikin pasien sakit peh dirumah sakit yg banyak > dokter kok disana banyak wong sakit.Gunung sudah diakui ahli geology kakinya > menancap dalam2 kedalam bumi sebagai penstabil.Kalau gak percoyo tanyalah > Dr.Frank Priest dulu staf ahlinya Presiden Jimmy Carter dia Dr.Geology.Kalau > gak ada pines raksasa tsb permukaan bumi ini akan berhamburan sebab > diputar(rotasi)dg kecepatan perhari 40000Km.Jadi hanya Kitab saya ini yg bisa > bicara berbagai disiplin dan benar. > > Paulus Anak Wedus. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > Jadi knp Aceh goyang2 terus padahal auloh udh nancep2in gunung? > > > > "Ilmuwan" Islam lalu ngoceh ada gempa krn orang Aceh itu maksiat, jadi > > ocehan auloh bhw dia nancepin gunung2 spy ga goyang itu ga dianggep. > > > > Maklum, auloh itu emang tukang tipu, jadi ocehannya ga usah dianggep, pikir > > "ilmuwan" Islam. Krn auloh tukang tipu, gpp jg kalo "ilmuwan" Islam nipu. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Nih ada contoh "ilmu" di khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu... > > > > > > "Dan Dia menancapkan gunung-gunung di bumi supaya bumi itu tidak goncang > > > bersama kamu, (dan Dia menciptakan) sungai-sungai dan jalan-jalan agar > > > kamu > > > mendapat petunjuk. (An Nahl, 16:15)" > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Orang itu saling bekajar dr orang lain, itu normal. > > > > > > > > Tp orang Islam ngaku Quran sbg sumber iptek atau segala macam kibulan > > > > lainnya. Lalu, penemuan iptek apa yg bersumber dr QUran? Kagak ada tuh. > > > > > > > > Kl dr hadis sih masih ada, misalnya air wudhu lalat atau kencing onta > > > > sbg > > > > obat. Cuma ga dimanfaatkan aja oleh orang Islam krn mereka ogah unt mati > > > > sbg syuhada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya ketika itu orang Islam belajar dari kafir, seperti dari ilmuwan dan > > > > > filsuf Yunani.. > > > > > > > > > > Dan jangan lupa: angka nol itu adalah fikirn orang India... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalo ada ilmuwan orang Islam di TImTeng jaman dulu, itu ga ada > > > hubungan > > > > > > dgn Islam, krn di TimTeng itu iptek udh relatif berkembang, jadi > > > iptek yg > > > > > > ada di sana bukan dr Islam, tp dr peradaban yg udh ada di situ > > > sebelum > > > > > ada > > > > > > Islam. > > > > > > > > > > > > Islam itulah yg mematikan iptek di TimTeng. Makanya waktu Eropa > > > bangkit > > > > > dr > > > > > > jaman kegelapan, dunia Arab kembali ke jaman batu persis spt apa yg > > > ada > > > > > di > > > > > > gurun Arab dimana ga ada apa2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Omar moyo moyo <omarmoyo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mana dia tahu kalau Alhazen itu tempat Ilmuawan belajar > > > > > > > bikin pinhole,Slr hingga,digital camera...masalahnya > > > itutuh........... > > > > > > > ............Dia nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan ilmuwan, > > > > > > > melainkan ustat palsu, hehe.. > > > > > > > ============================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the 10th century, Persian scientist Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen) > > > wrote > > > > > > > about naturally-occurring rudimentary pinhole cameras. > > > > > > > For example, light may travel through the slits of wicker baskets > > > or > > > > > the > > > > > > > crossing of tree leaves.[2] (The circular dapples on a forest > > > floor, > > > > > > > actually pinhole images of the sun, can be seen to have a bite > > > taken > > > > > out of > > > > > > > them during partial solar > > > > > > > eclipses opposite to the position of the moon's actual occultation > > > of > > > > > > > the sun because of the inverting effect of pinhole lenses.) > > > > > > > Alhazen published this idea in the Book of Optics in 1021 AD. He > > > > > improved > > > > > > > on the camera after realizing that the smaller > > > > > > > the pinhole, the sharper the image (though the less light). He > > > provides > > > > > > > the first clear description for construction of a camera obscura > > > (Lat. > > > > > > > dark chamber). > > > > > > > In the 5th century BC, the Mohist philosopher Mozi (墨å ) in > > > ancient > > > > > China > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned the effect of an inverted image forming through a > > > > > pinhole.[3] The > > > > > > > image of an inverted Chinese pagoda is mentioned in Duan > > > Chengshi's (d. > > > > > > > 863) book Miscellaneous Morsels from Youyang written during the > > > Tang > > > > > > > Dynasty (618â"907).[4] Along with experimenting with the pinhole > > > > > camera and > > > > > > > the burning mirror of the ancient Mohists, the Song Dynasty > > > > > (960â"1279 CE) > > > > > > > Chinese scientist Shen Kuo (1031â"1095) experimented with camera > > > > > obscura and > > > > > > > > > > > > was the first to establish geometrical and quantitative attributes > > > for > > > > > > > it.[4] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ancient pinhole camera effect caused by balistrarias in the > > > > > Castelgrande > > > > > > > in Bellinzona > > > > > > > In the 13th century, Robert Grosseteste and Roger Bacon commented > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > pinhole camera.[5] Between 1000 and 1600, men such as Ibn > > > al-Haytham, > > > > > Gemma > > > > > > > Frisius, and Giambattista della Porta wrote on the pinhole camera, > > > > > > > explaining why the images are upside down. > > > > > > > Around 1600, Giambattista della Porta added a lens to the pinhole > > > > > > > camera.[6][7] It was not until 1850 that a Scottish scientist by > > > the > > > > > name > > > > > > > of Sir David Brewster actually took the first photograph with a > > > pinhole > > > > > > > camera. Up until > > > > > > > recently it was believed that Brewster himself coined the term > > > > > "Pinhole" > > > > > > > in "The Stereoscope"[citation needed]. The earliest reference to > > > the > > > > > term > > > > > > > "Pinhole" has been traced back to > > > > > > > almost a century before Brewster to James Ferguson's Lectures on > > > select > > > > > > > Subjects.[8][9] Sir William Crookes and William de Wiveleslie > > > > > > > Abney > > > > > were > > > > > > > other early photographers to try the pinhole technique.[10] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: ajeg <ajegilelu@> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:48 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Ilmuwan2 yg mualaf krn Riset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nggak ada yang perlu diributkan ketika ilmuwan Barat > > > > > > > menghormati dan memakai buah pemikiran Al-Haytham (bukan > > > > > > > alitem) atau yang mereka kenal sebagai Alhazen. Lu kira > > > > > > > yang namanya lensa, mikroskop, dan segala perkara optik itu > > > > > > > berawal dari pemikiran siapa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Di kalangan ilmuwan Barat, Alhazen malah disebut sebagai > > > > > > > ilmuwan pertama. Alias orang pertama yang menyusun teori > > > > > > > berdasarkan metode ilmiah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lu nggak bakal mengakui itu karena lu bukan ilmuwan, > > > > > > > melainkan ustat palsu, hehe... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knp ga ada "ilmuwan" muslim yg dijadikan referensi? 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