Tadinya si Taman Baru ini ngira dg pakai nama Tawangalun akan lares manis,rupanya angan2nya meleset,postingnya gak ada yg nggagas. Customer itu tahu kok bhw Tawangalun yg bonafid selalu ada label Paulus Anak Wedus.Yo salahnya sendiri si Tawangalun Kristen gak mau njiplak,yo akirnya sepi pengunjung,ha ha ha. Coba deh tambahkan label Paulus Anak Wedus biar omzetnya naik.
Paulus Anak Wedus. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Tawang memang orang gila... > > Yang membuktikan bahwa kata "huri" itu artinya buah anggur putih adalah > peneliti ilmiah... > > Sedangkan yang bilang kata huri itu artinya bidadari adalah orang-orang dungu > yagnakanjing yagn tidak berpendidikan... > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > Kenapa kamu kok selalu ingin membawa terjemahan bidadari menjadi anggur > > putih,opo takut pengin kalau saya nanti dikitari 72 supermodel? > > Lawong ayat lain disebut: > > > > 1.Tunduk pandang,bermata jeli. > > 2.Tidak pernah mens. > > 3.Setiap habis berhubungan segelnya renewable. > > Anggur opo yg segelnya perlu di renewable,atau yg bermata jeli. > > Luxenburg Luling itu wong guwing ,ngira kalau surga itu bidadarinya tuwo > > kayak Marlene. > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tawang itu emang gila... > > > > > > Orang bicara tentang arti berbagai kata di khurafah najis al-Mushaf > > > susunan orang Arab priitif dia bicara masaalah "bahasa Arab sehari2 itu > > > berbeda dg bhs Arab yg diajarkan di pondok Gontor atau IAIN," > > > > > > Tawang ini memang orang gila, sama gilanya dengan johny-indon... > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > La memang bahasa Arab sehari2 itu berbeda dg bhs Arab yg diajarkan di > > > > pondok Gontor atau IAIN,tapi wong Arab bisa nangkap juga kalau diajak > > > > ngomong alumni Gontor. > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bagi Muslim yg jujur, yg ingin mengetahui apakah ayat2nya berasal > > > > > dari Allah atau dari manusia, silakan membaca hasil riset Luxemberg. > > > > > Risetnya berjudul 'Kata2 asing dalam Al Qur'an.' > > > > > > > > > > Umat Islam haqul-yakin bhw Bahasa Arab yg dipakai untuk menyampaikan > > > > > perintah Allah dan yg kemudian dituliskan menjadi Al Qur'an itu > > > > > adalah bahasa yg paling baik, paling lengkap, bahasa sorgawi. Ini > > > > > merupakan alasan mgengapa ayat2 Al Qur'an harus dilafalkan dlm bahasa > > > > > aslinya. > > > > > > > > > > Luxemberg dlm researchnya menemukan lebih dari 200 kata asing (kata2 > > > > > berasal dari bahasa manusia, bukan dari sorga) yg dipakai dlm al > > > > > Qur'an. Banyak kata2 itu asalnya Bahasa Persia (misalnya, firdaus, > > > > > janna, jahanam, dst.), bahasa Yahudi (misalnya: Messsiah menjadi Al > > > > > Masih), dari bahasa Yunani Koine (misalnya: Injil dari salah ucap > > > > > orang2 Kristen Arab "Eaugenlion" = Kabar sukacita) dan bahkan bahasa > > > > > Ethiopia ( misalnya: hawariyun). Ini jelas membuktikan bhw Bahasa al > > > > > Qur'an bukan bahasa yg sempurna, bukan bahasa sorgawi! > > > > > > > > > > Sebenarnya pd th. 1938Prof. Arthur Jeffreys dari London sudah > > > > > mengumpulkan kata2 asing yang ada di dalam Al Qur'an.. Luxemburg > > > > > menemukan kata2 Syriac (dialek Timur dari bahasa Aram = bahasanya > > > > > Yesus) yg rupanya salah dimengerti dan diterjemahkan secara salah > > > > > pula. Salah satu kata itu ialah 'hurin' yg arti aslinya setundun > > > > > 'anggur warna putih - translucent'. Mula2 penterjemah yg tidak tahu > > > > > arti sebenarnya menterjemahkannya sebagai 'bidadari perawan abadi'. > > > > > Begitu juga kata 'rawaj' (= disegarkan) yg dalam tulisannya sangat > > > > > mirip dengan kata ;sawaj' - 'kawin/dikawinkan'. > > > > > > > > > > Jadi seebenarnya yg dijanjikan kepada Muslim yg mati syuhada > > > > > adalah: 'Disegarkan oleh setundun anggur putih' tapi karena salah > > > > > terjemahannya menjadi 'dikawinkan dengan sejumlah bidadari' > > > > > > > > > > Kasihan benar semua yg mati syuhada, yg mati bom bunuh diri termasuk > > > > > Amrozi, Imam Samudra, Dr. Umar Top (Malaysian) kalau mereka diijinkan > > > > > masuk Janna, mereka hanya diegarkan oleh setundun anggur putis' dan > > > > > tidak 'dikawinkan dg sejumlah bidadari'. OomTawangalun yg juga > > > > > berharap dapat ngerjain 72 bidadari (super model) akan sangat kuciwa. > > > > > > > > > > Itulah sedihnya kalau orang dungu menyontek, akibatnya menjadikan > > > > > ribuan Muslim terperosok janji kosong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 2:53 AM > > > > > Subject: [proletar] The Guardian (Warraq) : Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jan/12/books.guardianreview5 > > > > > > > > > > Culture > > > > > Books > > > > > > > > > > Ibn Warraq > > > > > The Guardian, Saturday 12 January 2002 > > > > > > > > > > Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > > > > It is widely believed that Muslim 'martyrs' enjoy rich sensual > > > > > rewards on reaching paradise. A new study suggests they may be > > > > > disappointed. Ibn Warraq reports > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In August, 2001, the American television channel CBS aired an > > > > > interview with a Hamas activist Muhammad Abu Wardeh, who recruited > > > > > terrorists for suicide bombings in Israel. Abu Wardeh was quoted as > > > > > saying: "I described to him how God would compensate the martyr for > > > > > sacrificing his life for his land. If you become a martyr, God will > > > > > give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness." Wardeh was > > > > > in fact shortchanging his recruits since the rewards in Paradise for > > > > > martyrs was 72 virgins. But I am running ahead of things . > > > > > > > > > > Since September 11, news stories have repeated the story of suicide > > > > > bombers and their heavenly rewards, and equally Muslim scholars and > > > > > Western apologists of Islam have repeated that suicide is forbidden > > > > > in Islam. Suicide (qatlu nafsi-hi) is not referred to in the Koran > > > > > but is indeed forbidden in the Traditions (Hadith in Arabic), which > > > > > are the collected sayings and doings attributed to the Prophet and > > > > > traced back to him through a series of putatively trustworthy > > > > > witnesses. They include what was done in his presence that he did not > > > > > forbid, and even the authoritative sayings and doings of his > > > > > companions. > > > > > > > > > > But the Hamas spokesman correctly uses the word martyr (shahid) and > > > > > not suicide bomber, since those who blow themselves up almost daily > > > > > in Israel and those who died on September 11 were dying in the > > > > > noblest of all causes, Jihad, which is an incumbent religious duty, > > > > > established in the Koran and in the Traditions as a divine > > > > > institution, and enjoined for the purpose of advancing Islam. While > > > > > suicide is forbidden, martyrdom is everywhere praised, welcomed, and > > > > > urged: "By the Being in Whose Hand is my life, I love that I should > > > > > be killed in the way of Allah; then I should be brought back to life > > > > > and be killed again in His way..."; "The Prophet said, 'Nobody who > > > > > enters Paradise will ever like to return to this world even if he > > > > > were offered everything, except the martyr who will desire to return > > > > > to this world and be killed 10 times for the sake of the great honour > > > > > that has been bestowed upon him'." [Sahih Muslim, chapters 781, 782, > > > > > The Merit of Jihad and the > > > > > Merit of Martyrdom.] > > > > > > > > > > What of the rewards in paradise? The Islamic paradise is described in > > > > > great sensual detail in the Koran and the Traditions; for instance, > > > > > Koran sura 56 verses 12 -40 ; sura 55 verses 54-56 ; sura 76 verses > > > > > 12-22. I shall quote the celebrated Penguin translation by NJ Dawood > > > > > of sura 56 verses 12- 39: "They shall recline on jewelled couches > > > > > face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls > > > > > and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their > > > > > heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice > > > > > and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the > > > > > dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their > > > > > deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving > > > > > companions for those on the right hand..." > > > > > > > > > > One should note that most translations, even those by Muslims > > > > > themselves such as A Yusuf Ali, and the British Muslim Marmaduke > > > > > Pickthall, translate the Arabic (plural) word Abkarun as virgins, as > > > > > do well-known lexicons such the one by John Penrice. I emphasise this > > > > > fact since many pudic and embarrassed Muslims claim there has been a > > > > > mistranslation, that "virgins" should be replaced by "angels". In > > > > > sura 55 verses 72-74, Dawood translates the Arabic word " hur " as > > > > > "virgins", and the context makes clear that virgin is the appropriate > > > > > translation: "Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents (which of > > > > > your Lord's blessings would you deny?) whom neither man nor jinnee > > > > > will have touched before." The word hur occurs four times in the > > > > > Koran and is usually translated as a "maiden with dark eyes". > > > > > > > > > > Two points need to be noted. First, there is no mention anywhere in > > > > > the Koran of the actual number of virgins available in paradise, and > > > > > second, the dark-eyed damsels are available for all Muslims, not just > > > > > martyrs. It is in the Islamic Traditions that we find the 72 virgins > > > > > in heaven specified: in a Hadith (Islamic Tradition) collected by > > > > > Al-Tirmidhi (died 892 CE [common era*]) in the Book of Sunan (volume > > > > > IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the > > > > > Messenger of Allah [Prophet Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest > > > > > Reward for the People of Paradise, (Hadith 2687). The same hadith is > > > > > also quoted by Ibn Kathir (died 1373 CE ) in his Koranic commentary > > > > > (Tafsir) of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: "The Prophet Muhammad was > > > > > heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an > > > > > abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands > > > > > a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the > > > > > distance from > > > > > Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'." > > > > > > > > > > Modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident materialism > > > > > and sexual implications of such descriptions, but, as the > > > > > Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox Muslim theologians such as > > > > > al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted > > > > > sensual pleasures into paradise". The sensual pleasures are > > > > > graphically elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator > > > > > and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri we find her > > > > > virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection > > > > > is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is > > > > > utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it > > > > > in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry > > > > > seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all > > > > > will have appetising vaginas." > > > > > > > > > > One of the reasons Nietzsche hated Christianity was that it "made > > > > > something unclean out of sexuality", whereas Islam, many would argue, > > > > > was sex-positive. One cannot imagine any of the Church fathers > > > > > writing ecstatically of heavenly sex as al-Suyuti did, with the > > > > > possible exception of St Augustine before his conversion. But surely > > > > > to call Islam sex-positive is to insult all Muslim women, for sex is > > > > > seen entirely from the male point of view; women's sexuality is > > > > > admitted but seen as something to be feared, repressed, and a work of > > > > > the devil. > > > > > > > > > > Scholars have long pointed out that these images are clearly drawn > > > > > pictures and must have been inspired by the art of painting. > > > > > Muhammad, or whoever is responsible for the descriptions, may well > > > > > have seen Christian miniatures or mosaics representing the gardens of > > > > > paradise and has interpreted the figures of angels rather literally > > > > > as those of young men and young women. A further textual influence on > > > > > the imagery found in the Koran is the work of Ephrem the Syrian > > > > > [306-373 CE], Hymns on Paradise, written in Syriac, an Aramaic > > > > > dialect and the language of Eastern Christianity, and a Semitic > > > > > language closely related to Hebrew and Arabic. > > > > > > > > > > This naturally leads to the most fascinating book ever written on the > > > > > language of the Koran, and if proved to be correct in its main > > > > > thesis, probably the most important book ever written on the Koran. > > > > > Christoph Luxenberg's book, Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, > > > > > available only in German, came out just over a year ago, but has > > > > > already had an enthusiastic reception, particularly among those > > > > > scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic languages at Princeton, > > > > > Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, Aix-en-Provence, and the Oriental > > > > > Institute in Beirut. > > > > > > > > > > Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear > > > > > if we read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go > > > > > into the technical details of his methodology but it allows > > > > > Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of > > > > > sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed > > > > > houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and > > > > > LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the > > > > > Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than > > > > > doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims > > > > > that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is > > > > > being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris. > > > > > > > > > > In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, > > > > > with the word "raisin" understood implicitly. Similarly, the > > > > > immortal, pearl-like ephebes or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are > > > > > really a misreading of a Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins > > > > > (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of tasting in > > > > > contrast to the boiling drinks promised the unfaithful and damned. > > > > > > > > > > As Luxenberg's work has only recently been published we must await > > > > > its scholarly assessment before we can pass any judgements. But if > > > > > his analysis is correct then suicide bombers, or rather prospective > > > > > martyrs, would do well to abandon their culture of death, and instead > > > > > concentrate on getting laid 72 times in this world, unless of course > > > > > they would really prefer chilled or white raisins, according to their > > > > > taste, in the next. > > > > > > > > > > · Common era is an alternative to Christian era as a method of > > > > > historical dating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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