Anda itu baningna pendusta Abbas Amien. Anda itu bangsat tukang fitnah.
Andaitnah saya beli buku dengan "UANG hasil DERMA NEGARA" Saya beli buku dengan uang saya, uang tabungan dai uang pensiun yang aduhai yang adalah uang saya yang dikelola oleh lembaga pengelolan pensiun di Perancis dan negeri Belanda. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@...> wrote: > > Kalau DIBUANG berarti kau BELI lagi !? untuk kemudian dikencingin lagi ? > Kok negri Frace atau Netherlands ngediamin saja ya ? Padahal BELI BUKU dengan > UANG hasil DERMA NEGARA ? Digunakan secara sia2 ? > Itu sih sama saja dengan NGINJEK2 BANTUAN orang ? > Kau tak menghargai para DERMAWAN. > Kau habiskan uang santunan hanya untuk beli BUKU dan kemudian kamu kencingin. > Dan itu dilakukan berkali kali ! > Mestinya kau sudah harus dibawa ke ASYLLUM. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq" <kesayangan.allah@> wrote: > > > > > > Inilah hasil ajaran agama taik anjing Islam yang anda anut itu Abbas Amin: > > bukan saja jadi dungu kayak b abi tapi anda juga jadi bajingan tukang kibul > > dan bangsat pendusta. > > > > Setelah saya kencingi tu buku taik anjing al-Mushaf saya buang. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > Memangnya kaya kamu ngencingan koran terus ber kali2; > > > sehingga bau pesing.Dan tetap kau simpan untuk nanti dikeningin lagi ! > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq" <kesayangan.allah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Abbas Amin OOT, tidak sanggup menjawab pertanyaan item abu yang > > > > berbunyi: > > > > > > > > "Kenapa lu ga pernah nanya ke FPI misalnya berapa rumah atau tempat > > > > ibadah yg udah mereka bakar? Pasti FPI itu favorit lu kan." > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Disini emang ada FPI ? > > > > > Yang ada kam cuman item abu > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jangan bandingin gua dgn orang Islam yg ngejalanin sunnah nabi dgn > > > > > > ngebakar > > > > > > rumah atau tempat ibadah. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenapa lu ga pernah nanya ke FPI misalnya berapa rumah atau tempat > > > > > > ibadah yg > > > > > > udah mereka bakar? Pasti FPI itu favorit lu kan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 11:32:55 AM > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: More On Koran Burning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jasiii ............ sudh berapa rumah yang kau bakar !? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe.... yg nyuruh ngebakar rumah itu kan nabi lu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Volume 1, Book 11, Number 626: > > > > > > > Narrated Abu Huraira: > > > > > > > >The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than > > > > > > > >the Fajr > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these > > > > > > > > prayers at > > > > > > > > > > > > > >their respective times, they would certainly present > > > > > > > >themselves (in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > >mosques) even if they had to c awl."The Prophet added, > > > > > > > >"Certainly I > > > > > > > >decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce > > > > > > > >Iqama and > > > > > > >order > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to > > > > > > > >burn all those > > > > > > >who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with > > > > > > > >their > > > > > > >houses." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jadi lu anggap ngebakar rumah itu adlaah perbuatan bejad? Kalo > > > > > > > >gitu, nabi lu > > > > > > >itu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >bejad, bukan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:00:34 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: More On Koran Burning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ngebakar rumah orangpun buat kanu apa salahnya bukan ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe.... emangnya apa salahnya ngebakar kitab yg ngehalalin > > > > > > > > merkosa, > > > > > > > > pedophilia, ngerampok, ngebunuh, perbudakan, ngibul dll? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: ndeboost <rambitesemak@> > > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 5:36:01 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: More On Koran Burning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kertas Al Qur'an kurang empuk sbg pengganti roll-tissue. Ada > > > > > > > > kok yg > > > > > > > > lebih pas, dan lebih tebal lagi. Apa lagi bila sdh kedaluwarsa, > > > > > > > > ketimbang menuhin lemari. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utk dipakai kompos? Ga ekonomis. Disamping labourous juga > > > > > > > > mahal. Satu Al > > > > > > > > Qur'an (atau buku sucimu) bekas bisa utk beli 10 kg kompos siap > > > > > > > > pakai. > > > > > > > > Bahan hidro karbon perlu lk 3 bulan (cara standard) agar jadi > > > > > > > > kompos. > > > > > > > > Namun kalau ngotot, ya boleh juga. 'Mangnya @dapurmu perlu > > > > > > > > komopos? Utk > > > > > > > > make up? Utk dimakan? Kompos ga baik utk pencernaanmu, kecuali > > > > > > > > kamu ikut > > > > > > > > Nabi Nuh saat banjir besar. Perahunya terkatung-katung, KATEBE, > > > > > > > > hampir > > > > > > > > setahun. Ga ada pemasok nawarin logistik, jadi makanan yg di > > > > > > > > stok either > > > > > > > > habis, jadi kompos atau penumpangnya saling mangsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utk dibakar? Polusi. Utk bahan bakar mungkin lebih baik. > > > > > > > > Sekalian mainan > > > > > > > > abunya, ketimbang "mainan" semangka. Kamu kan masa kecil ga > > > > > > > > bahagia? > > > > > > > > Atau kamuflase, stok (sisa) Al Qur'an palsu pura-puranya > > > > > > > > dibakar, > > > > > > > > ketimbang ketahuan petugas dan jadi masalah legal. Kan tetangga > > > > > > > > seringnya malsu Al Qur'an? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keknya ga ada umat Islam pada malsu atau mbakarin Bibel. > > > > > > > > Biasanya yg > > > > > > > > dipalsu kwalitasnya sangat bagus. mBakarin Bibel? Wekekekek.., > > > > > > > > sayang. > > > > > > > > Kan di simpan bisa jadi barang antik? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cuma nDeboost pengin tahu, mbakar dan melecehkan Al Qur'an > > > > > > > > 'mangnya > > > > > > > > ajaran Yesus apa iblis? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gua pribadi sih ga setuju kalo Quran dibakar begitu aja, itu > > > > > > > > > cuma > > > > > > > > ngerusak > > > > > > > > > alam, nambah karbon dioksida dan nyia2kan kertas yg dibuat dr > > > > > > > > > pohon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Drpd Quran dibakar begitu aja, mendingan Quran itu dipake > > > > > > > > > kertasnya > > > > > > > > buat > > > > > > > > > bersihin pantat abis beol misalnya. Atau, bisa jg Quran > > > > > > > > > dibuang ke dlm > > > > > > > > tempat > > > > > > > > > taik biar cepat jadi kompos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Betul ga tuh yg gua bilang? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/263916/more-koran-burning-andrew-c-\ > > > > > > > > mccarthy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More On Koran Burning > > > > > > > > > April 5, 2011 10:59 A.M. > > > > > > > > > By Andrew C. McCarthy > > > > > > > > > Jonah, my problem with the Koran burning stunt is that it is > > > > > > > > > counterproductive. I hear what > > > > > > > > > youÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re saying about > > > > > > >decency. But > > > > > > > > on that score, > > > > > > > > > I donÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t find the burning > > > > > > > > > any more offensive in principle > > > > > > >than I > > > > > > > > do its opposite > > > > > > > > > extreme: the bizarro hyper-reverence with which the Koran is > > > > > > > > > handled > > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > > > Defense Department. > > > > > > > > > Down at Gitmo, the Defense Department gives the Koran to each > > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > terrorists > > > > > > > > > even though DoD knows they interpret it (not without reason) > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > command them to > > > > > > > > > kill the people who gave it to them. To underscore our > > > > > > > > > precious > > > > > > > > sensitivity to > > > > > > > > > Muslims, standard procedure calls for the the book to be > > > > > > > > > handled only > > > > > > > > by Muslim > > > > > > > > > military personnel. Sometimes, though, that is not possible > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > > reasons. If, as a last resort, one of our non-Muslim troops > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > handle or > > > > > > > > > transport the book, he must wear white gloves, and he is > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > instructed > > > > > > > > > primarily to use the right hand (indulging Muslim > > > > > > >cultureÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > > > > > > > > taboo about the > > > > > > > > > sinister left hand). The book is to be conveyed to the > > > > > > > > > prisoners in a > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"reverent > > > > > > > > > mannerÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½ inside a > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"clean dry > > > > > > >towel.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½ This is a > > > > > > > > nod to Islamic teaching that > > > > > > > > > infidels are so low a form of life that they should not be > > > > > > > > > touched > > > > > > > > (as > > > > > > > > > Ayatollah Ali Sistani teaches, non-Muslims are > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"considered > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > the same > > > > > > > > > category as urine, feces, semen, dead bodies, blood, dogs, > > > > > > > > > pigs, > > > > > > > > alcoholic > > > > > > > > > liquors,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½ and > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"the sweat of an animal who > > > > > > >persistently > > > > > > > > eats [unclean things].ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½ > > > > > > > > > This is every bit as indecent as torching the Koran, > > > > > > > > > implicitly > > > > > > > > endorsing as it > > > > > > > > > does the very dehumanization of non-Muslims that leads to > > > > > > > > > terrorism. > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, there is hypocrisy to consider: the Defense > > > > > > > > > Department > > > > > > > > now piously > > > > > > > > > condemning Koran burning is the same Defense Department that > > > > > > > > > itself > > > > > > > > did not > > > > > > > > > give a second thought to confiscating and burning bibles in > > > > > > > > Afghanistan. > > > > > > > > > Quite consciously, U.S. commanders ordered this purge in > > > > > > > > > deference to > > > > > > > > sharia > > > > > > > > > proscriptions against the proselytism of faiths other than > > > > > > > > > Islam. And > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > General Petraeus well knows, his chain of command is not the > > > > > > > > > only one > > > > > > > > destroying > > > > > > > > > bibles. Non-Muslim religious artifacts, including bibles, > > > > > > > > > are torched > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > otherwise destroyed in Islamic countries every single day as > > > > > > > > > a matter > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > standard operating procedure. (See, e.g., my 2007 post on > > > > > > > > > Saudi > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > guidelines that prohibit Jews and Christians from bringing > > > > > > > > > bibles, > > > > > > > > crucifixes, > > > > > > > > > Stars of David, etc., into the country > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" and, of course, not > > > > > > > > just non-Muslim > > > > > > > > > accessories but non-Muslim people are barred from entering > > > > > > > > > Mecca and > > > > > > > > most of > > > > > > > > > Medina, based on the classical interpretation of an > > > > > > > > > injunction found > > > > > > > > in what > > > > > > > > > Petraeus is fond of calling the Holy > > > > > > > > > QurÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢an (sura 9:28: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Truly the pagans are > > > > > > > > > unclean . . . so let them not . . . approach the sacred > > > > > > > > mosqueÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½). > > > > > > > > > I donÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t like book > > > > > > > > > burning either, but I think there are > > > > > > > > different kinds of book > > > > > > > > > burnings. One is done for purposes of censorship > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" the attempt > > > > > > > > to purge the > > > > > > > > > world of every copy of a book to make it as if the sentiments > > > > > > > > expressed never > > > > > > > > > existed. A good modern example is Cambridge University > > > > > > >PressÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > > > > > > > > shameful pulping > > > > > > > > > of all known copies of Alms for Jihad (see > > > > > > > > > StanleyÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s 2007 > > > > > > >post > > > > > > > > on that). The > > > > > > > > > other kind of burning is done as symbolic condemnation. > > > > > > >ThatÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > > > > > > > > what I think > > > > > > > > > Terry Jones was doing. He knows he > > > > > > > > > doesnÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t have the > > > > > > >ability to > > > > > > > > purge the Koran > > > > > > > > > from the world, and he > > > > > > > > > wasnÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t trying to. He > > > > > > > > > was trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > condemn some of the > > > > > > > > > ideas that are in it ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" or maybe he > > > > > > > > > really thinks the whole > > > > > > > > thing is > > > > > > > > > condemnable. > > > > > > > > > This is a particularly aggressive and vivid way to express > > > > > > > > > disdain, > > > > > > > > but I donÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t > > > > > > > > > know that it is much different in principle from orally > > > > > > > > > condemning > > > > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > > > KoranÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s suras and > > > > > > > > > verses. Sura 9 of the Koran, for > > > > > > >example, > > > > > > > > states the > > > > > > > > > supremacist doctrine that commands Muslims to kill and > > > > > > > > > conquer > > > > > > > > non-Muslims > > > > > > > > > (e.g., 9:5: ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"But when the > > > > > > > > > forbidden months are past, then > > > > > > > > fight and slay the > > > > > > > > > pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer > > > > > > > > > them, and lie > > > > > > > > in wait > > > > > > > > > for them in every stratagem (of war) . . > > > > > > > > > .ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½; 9:29: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Fight those who believe not > > > > > > > > > in Allah nor the last day, nor hold forbidden which hath been > > > > > > > > forbidden by > > > > > > > > > Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of > > > > > > > > > Truth, from > > > > > > > > among the > > > > > > > > > people of the Book [i.e., the Jews and Christians], until > > > > > > > > > they pay > > > > > > > > the jizya > > > > > > > > > [i.e., the tax paid for the privilege of living as dhimmis > > > > > > > > > under the > > > > > > > > protection > > > > > > > > > of the sharia state] with willing submission, and feel > > > > > > > > > themselves > > > > > > > > subduedÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¯Ã¿Ã½). I > > > > > > > > > must say, IÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve got a > > > > > > > > > much bigger problem with the people > > > > > > > > trying to comply with > > > > > > > > > those commands than with the guy who burns them. > > > > > > > > > I think the big problem with what Jones did is the gratuitous > > > > > > > > > insult > > > > > > > > to all > > > > > > > > > Muslims, including the millions who do not subscribe to the > > > > > > > > > violent > > > > > > > > jihadist or > > > > > > > > > broader Islamist construction of Islamic scripture. They > > > > > > > > > have found > > > > > > > > some way to > > > > > > > > > rationalize the incendiary scriptures > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" and if it works for > > > > > > > > them, who the hell > > > > > > > > > am I to say theyÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re > > > > > > > > > wrong? They are our natural allies in > > > > > > >this > > > > > > > > battle, and as > > > > > > > > > IÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve often pointed out, > > > > > > > > > without their help, we could not > > > > > > >have > > > > > > > > done things like > > > > > > > > > infiltrate the Blind > > > > > > > > > SheikhÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s terror cell, > > > > > > > > > gather vital > > > > > > > > intelligence, thwart > > > > > > > > > terrorist attacks, and refine trial evidence into compelling > > > > > > > > > proof. > > > > > > > > > These people regard the Koran as the most important of their > > > > > > > > scriptures. When > > > > > > > > > someone burns the Koran in an act of indiscriminate, > > > > > > > > > wholesale > > > > > > > > condemnation, > > > > > > > > > the message to them is that their belief system is > > > > > > > > > incorrigible. > > > > > > > > Freedom of > > > > > > > > > speech means that we have to allow that argument to be made, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > IÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m not > > > > > > > > > entirely sure itÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > > > > > > > > > wrong. But good Muslim people give us > > > > > > > > reason to hope that > > > > > > > > > what ails Islam can be reformed. I > > > > > > > > > donÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t see the upside > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > alienating those > > > > > > > > > people. I think you can condemn the condemnable aspects of > > > > > > > > > the Koran > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > condemning everything. But > > > > > > > > > thatÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s just my opinion, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > >Mr. > > > > > > > > Jones is as entitled > > > > > > > > > to his as I am to mine. And for what > > > > > > > > > itÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s worth, I doubt > > > > > > >my > > > > > > > > opinion would be > > > > > > > > > much more popular than his in Mazar-e-Sharif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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