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Huahahahahahahahaha Cuman anjing tua tolol yg bangga dicaci maki atau diledekin orang sekampung Malu Pig sama Pak Umar Said Maluuuuuuuuuuuuuu -----Original Message----- From: "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.peda...@yahoo.com> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:35:25 To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, katanya, tidak peduli..) Persis kayak Roman Proteus yang sedeng: item abu, katanya, adalah pengecut... Makin jelas bahwa memang banyak persamaan antara Teddy ini dengan orang Islam disini... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote: > > Pengecut!!! (ala film-film Amerika dengan diiringi nada-nada dari lagu > kebangsaan Perancis, La Marseillaise). > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Hehehe ... gua sih ga heran kalo si Teddy bisa galak dan buas kalo ngebela > > kepentingannya sendiri. Anjing jg bisa galak kalo tulangnya mau diambil > > anjing lain. > > > > Tp si Teddy ini lebih rendah dr anjing krn ga tau malu padahal anjing itu > > mash tahu malu. > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:00 AM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, > > >katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > > > > > > > > > >Apakah pejabat tersebut menyadarinya? Itu perbuatan yang sama sia-sianya > > >dengan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke tembok. Saat saya dulu berurusan > > >dengan pawai Pemilu Partai Golkar, rombongan tersebut saya kejar hingga ke > > >markas mereka di Menteng, Jakarta. Saya temui kepala rombongan mereka, > > >saya jelaskan masalahnya dan saya tuntut permohonan maaf dengan memberikan > > >nama dan alamat di mana sang kepala rombongan berjanji untuk mengirim > > >orang ke rumah. Itu contoh yang langsung bisa dirasakan pejabat terkait. > > >Protege anda ini luar biasa pengecutnya. > > > > > >Satu hal, saya di sini bekerja dan bisa dikatakan kontribusi saya melebihi > > >semua fasilitas yang kami terima. Sebetulnya saya lebih menghendaki sistem > > >perpajakan seperti di AS berlaku di Australia di mana potongan pajak jauh > > >lebih rendah. > > > > > >Simpan kata-kata busuk anda bagi orang-orang yang ongkang-ongkang kaki > > >tanpa bekerja dengan memanfaatkan uang pajak orang banyak. > > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Pertama: menolak undangan bedebah, seerti yagn dilakukan item abu itu > > >> artinya tidak berdiam diri dihadapan kejahatan yang dilakukan bedebah > > >> itu. > > >> > > >> Kedua: sepanjang yang menyangkut kegiatan saya sejak tahun 1972 hingga > > >> Orde Naru jatuh, saya bisa bilang, disamping mendiang Ernst Utrecht dan > > >> sahabat saya Lim, saya adalah orang Indonesia yang dari negeri Belanda > > >> yang ikut mendukung usaha orang di Indonesia menjatuhkan Orde Baru. > > >> > > >> Saya tidak sekedar bersenang-senang di negeri orang menikmati jaminan > > >> sosial dan jaminan ksehatan yagn aduhai seperti anda yagn adalah manusia > > >> oportunis yang bertabiat busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. > > >> > > >> > > >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Ha ha ha. > > >> > > > >> > Tidak datang memenuhi undangan dan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke > > >> > tembok itu sama-sama tak ada artinya. > > >> > > > >> > Coba anda bercermin diri dan melihat apakah ada perubahan besar yang > > >> > telah terjadi di Indonesia yang merupakan hasil "perjuangan" anda > > >> > selama ini? > > >> > > > >> > Di sini semuanya tidak gratis dan malahan saya masih menyumbang orang > > >> > lain. Sementara ada cukup banyak yang menjadi 'dole bludgers' yang > > >> > sebagiannya enak-enak berselancar tiap harinya. Anda kira orang-orang > > >> > ini pantas menerima santunan? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > "item abu" menyatakan pendapatnya dengan tidak datang memenuhi > > >> > > undangan yang disampaikan kepadanya.. > > >> > > > > >> > > Ini satu. > > >> > > > > >> > > Yagn kedua: anda itu oportunis busuk, nisgtfa lagi menjijikkan > > >> > > karena anda enak-enak hidup di negeri yang punya jaminan sosial dan > > >> > > jaminan kesehatan yagn aduhai, hasil perjuangan orang yang peduli > > >> > > akan kesenjangan sosial, lalua nda bicara tentang mobil mewah dan > > >> > > anda tidak peduli dengan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh para bedebah > > >> > > yang menjarah khasanah negara Indonsia - sembari merek menghina > > >> > > korban jarahannnnya yang jadi melarat dengan petatagng petiting > > >> > > dengan mobil mewah hasil jarahannya. > > >> > > > > >> > > Anda itu betulk-betul adalah bangsat oppotunis busuk, nista lagi > > >> > > menjijikkan. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Tidak usah jauh-jauh, tuh protege satu-satunya kebanggan anda > > >> > > > tidak berani mengungkapkan pendapatnya sendiri pada tetangga yang > > >> > > > tinggal di depan rumahnya. Itu yang jelas-jelas langkah yang > > >> > > > merupakan feedback langsung dan mungkin, ini sih masih mungkin > > >> > > > bisa memberikan perubahan. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Apa haknya saya mencampuri yang bukan wewenang saya karena mereka > > >> > > > tidak mewakili saya? Anda mau mencampuri, maka itu urusan anda > > >> > > > sendiri. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Saya membayar restribusi untuk semua fasilitas yang saya dan ibu > > >> > > > saya terima di Australia. Kalau dihitung hingga dengan sen-sen > > >> > > > yang dikeluarkan, maka kontribusi saya selama ini masih lebih > > >> > > > banyak daripada nilai fasilitas yang didapat. Jadi ini tidak > > >> > > > gratis dan saya malah menyumbang untuk orang lain selama ini. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Jadi fasilitas ini tidak gratis dan saya membayar penuh. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul bajingan tengik. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul bangsat keparat. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, nista lagi > > >> > > > > menjijikkan. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Bukan urusannya, katanya, pejabat Indonesia menjarah khasanah > > >> > > > > negara Indonesia dan menjadikan Indonesia dedel duwel lalu > > >> > > > > menghina korban jarahannnya yang dimelaratkannnya sembari > > >> > > > > petatang petiting pamer mobil mewah dan pamer kekayaan.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Saat dia, Teddy, menikmati jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di > > >> > > > > Austrlia, hasil perjuangan orang Australia yang seperti item abu > > >> > > > > peduli terhadap kesenjangan sosial. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Selanjutnya: tidak peduli dengan adanya kejahatan yang dilakukan > > >> > > > > pejabat bedebah di Indonesia itu hakekatnya berpihak kepada > > >> > > > > pejabat penjahat itu. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak peduli. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > >> > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Asyik... > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa bedebah di Indonesia > > >> > > > > > > yang petatang petiting pamer hasil jarahan mereka... > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah sinonim dengan mobil > > >> > > > > > > mewah... > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. > > >> > > > > > > > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil mewah di mana > > >> > > > > > > > lu punya definisi sendiri untuk yang namanya mobil-mobil > > >> > > > > > > > mewah. Buat lu asal harganya relatif mahal, maka itu > > >> > > > > > > > pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal mobil-mobil pejabat yang lu > > >> > > > > > > > recokin itu tidak termasuk kategori mobil-mobil mewah > > >> > > > > > > > dalam definisi standar seperti yang disebutkan dalam > > >> > > > > > > > WIKIPEDIA. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang pejabat untuk > > >> > > > > > > > punya mobil apapun juga. Gua sih sama sekali tidak > > >> > > > > > > > peduli karena bukan urusan gua. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 lidah dan nambah > > >> > > > > > > > > dosanya dgn bikin fitnah baru. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan ocehannya sendiri, > > >> > > > > > > > > lalu si Teddy ngoceh seolah2 gua pernah ngelarang dia > > >> > > > > > > > > make duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh gua pernah ngelarang si > > >> > > > > > > > > Teddy make duitnya sendiri sesuka hatinya? Yg gua bilang > > >> > > > > > > > > adalah si Teddy adalah bajingan rakus dan serakah, > > >> > > > > > > > > bajingan yg ga peduli dgn orang lain, bukan ngelarang si > > >> > > > > > > > > Teddy make duit sesuka hatinya. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa ngebuktikan ocehannya, > > >> > > > > > > > > tp dasar bajingan ga tau malu, dia msh ga mau ngaku bhw > > >> > > > > > > > > mulutnya adalah lobang taik, padahal dia sendiri yg > > >> > > > > > > > > bilang kalo orang ga bisa ngebuktikan omongannya, maka > > >> > > > > > > > > ybs itu bermulut lobang taik. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh gading. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > >> > > > > > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM > > >> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >à> > >> > > > > > > > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut mobil-mobil > > >> > > > > > > > > >mewah seperti yang lu lakukan. Peduli amat dengan > > >> > > > > > > > > >orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena itu urusan pribadi > > >> > > > > > > > > >orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan yang pasti duitnya > > >> > > > > > > > > >bukan dari lu. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> > > >> > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. Dasar > > >> > > > > > > > > >> mulut lobang taik lu ini. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Ãâà> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >menterjemahkan: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> eksotis" yang juga melebihi US $ 100.000, tetapi > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai mobil mewah, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> seperti sebagai mobil sport dari Ferrari, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun Porsche > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan high-end / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> ukuran penuh kategori mewah. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." > > >> > > > > > > > > >> ><teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> langsung mengaku dan orang yang berotak busuk, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan hanya > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> mementingkan glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di mana > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> unsur HARGA bukanlah satu-satunya kriteria. Semua > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> orang normal akan tahu bahwa Ferrari itu merk > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> sebuah mobil sport. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda akan > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> mampu merubah definisi yang diberikan WIKIPEDIA > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan memasukan Ferrari > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> sebagai salah satu mobil yang termasuk dalam > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> klasifikasi mobil mewah. Saya tantang anda untuk > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> melakukan hal itu terhadap WIKIPEDIA. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> punya mata atau cuma baso doang. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed US$100,000, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > but would not necessarily be categorized as > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera does compete in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the high-end luxury/full-size luxury category. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu jelas > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > dungunya, referensi Teddy yang > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, nista > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > lagi menjijikkan ini tentang mobil mewah: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > termasuk kedalam kelas mobil > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. " > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > <teddyr@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dirinya demikian pintar dan rajin menggugel > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih ngotot dengan > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > definisinya sendiri atas "mobil-mobil mewah". > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, jadi > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > bolehlah sedikit berbelas kasihan meluangkan > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > waktu untuk membantu membuka mata. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicle that provides luxury âââ¬" > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pleasant or desirable features beyond strict > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessityâââ¬"at increased expense > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (see: definition of luxury). The term suggests > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > a vehicle with greater equipment, performance, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > construction precision, comfort, design > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ingenuity, technological innovation, or > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that convey brand image, cachet, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > status, or prestigeâââ¬"or any other > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > discretionary feature or combination of > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] or small-luxury class is relatively > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > new, having been initiated by several European > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands in the mid-2000s, and constitute the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > least expensive offerings in their lineups. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > These cars are targeted at a niche market of > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > young customers who have a more refined taste > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in their automobiles and the means to pay for > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > them.[citation needed] By offering a smaller, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > lighter, more fuel-efficient, and less > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > expensive vehicle, this serves to introduce a > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > younger customer to the luxury marque, in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > hopes of retaining the coveted customer > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > loyalty.[citation needed] This includes the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A3, BMW 1 Series, Lexus CT, and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz B-Class. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share components with > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market cars from the marque's parent > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company (the A3), and/or have less > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sophisticated platforms compared to upmarket > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicles in the lineup (such as the B-Class). > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The body style tends to be a hatchback or > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compact wagon, previously associated with > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economy cars but regaining popularity in the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > United States for its afforded utility. The > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury branding and style, high-quality > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > interior materials, wide range of convenience > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features, and performance powertrains are key > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to distinguishing them from mass market > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equivalents (one mistake made by the Cadillac > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cimarron) and making these appeal to consumers. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for instance > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Consumer Guide Automotive in the US considers > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Audi A3 and A4 as part of the premium > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compact segment due to similar size and MSRP, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though these are known in Europe as a small > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > family car and a compact executive car, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > respectively. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also known > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > as the compact executive car in Britain and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (Mittelklasse in German). In the US, this > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment mostly includes the bottom vehicles in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the line-up of luxury brands as well as the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > top-of-the-line models of some non-luxury > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller than mid-size/large family cars, and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sometimes even smaller than compact cars. Mass > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market compact cars typically use the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economical front wheel drive transverse engine > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layout, well suited to the inline-4 engine, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > which also maximizes interior room. Several > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compact executive cars are rear-wheel drive > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with longitudinal engines, for improved > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > stability and handling, and in order to > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > accommodate the larger size of > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher-performance engines (straight-6, V6, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rarely V8), with four-wheel drive often being > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > available. Compact executive cars also tend > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have more complicated independent suspensions, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sportier transmissions, and high revolution > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines that may require premium gasoline. The > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more complex powertrain and mechanical layouts > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of compact executive cars comes at increased > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cost and reduced interior passenger and trunk > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > space. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo S60, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Acura TSX, Lexus IS, BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which particularly > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > emphasize sporty handling. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura TL, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Chrysler 300, and Buick LaCrosse are also > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered entry-level luxury in the United > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > States and Canada, being similar in price to > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > However, the ES, TL, and LaCrosse are not sold > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in Europe and do not fall under European > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury classifications. The ES and TL actually > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > began as badge engineered versions of the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > midsize Toyota Camry and Honda Accord, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > respectively, retaining the front wheel drive > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, whereas Toyota's > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > current Lexus IS does not share a platform > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with mass market Toyota cars. The ES and TL > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are not considered executive cars either, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > despite similar dimensions, since executive > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars usually emphasize higher performance, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often being rear-wheel drive with longitudinal > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines. The present iterations of the ES and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > LaCrosse emphasize "comfortable, reasonably > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > priced luxury", while the TL has recently been > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > targeted at > > the entry-level > > >> > > > > > > > > luxury > > >> > > > > > > > > >> sport market. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been very > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > competitive, and there has been > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price-overlapping with well-equipped > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > non-luxury cars. The bestselling vehicles of > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the marque are frequently compact executive > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars, such as the BMW 3 Series that makes up > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 40% of the vehicles that BMW sells worldwide. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly referred > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to as executive cars in Britain, Obere > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RoutiÃÆ'ères in French. Examples include > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Volvo S80, BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > E-Class, and Jaguar XF > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Although having similar dimensions to mid-size > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars and large family cars, executive cars are > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engineered and positioned as premium vehicles > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with better performance and technology > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > amenities. There are also higher development > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and production costs, as many well-known > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-luxury cars use the longitudinal (usually > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > front engine rear wheel drive layout) engine > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mounting which affords space for powerful > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines such as a V8, instead of the more > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economical transverse engine layout of mass > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market cars which are restricted to inline-4 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > or V6. Executive cars usually have lower sales > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and production volumes compared to mid-size > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars and large family cars, as base trims with > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > less equipment and smaller engines are not > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sold in U.S. and Canadian markets. Also due to > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the problem of steep depreciation, especially > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > concerning cars from less prestigious brands, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > most executive cars are produced by marques > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that specialize in larger/more expensive > > vehicles. Particularly in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury segment is > > >> > > > > > > > > >> dominated by Mercedes-Benz and BMW, as executive cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> from lesser-known manufacturers such as > > >> > > > > > > > > >> CitroÃÆ'ën and Infiniti have not had much success. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the mid-range > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models of several luxury car manufacturers. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are also some flagship sedans in this > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment, such as the Acura RL and Infiniti M. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Executive cars such as the BMW 5 Series are > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > crucial to a luxury automaker's bottom line, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and although not the highest-selling model, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > they generate a significant amount of profits > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > due to the lucrative technology options. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > saloons, or premium large cars, while > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of these > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are the marque's showcases for the newest > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > automotive technology. Several nameplates also > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offer long-wheelbase versions that offer > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > additional rear legroom and amenities. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Full-size luxury cars sold in Canada and the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > U.S. typically have mid-displacement V8 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines, though recently some marques have > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offered six cylinder powerplants but without > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > much success. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models from the flagship lines of luxury car > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands. Examples include the Audi A8, BMW 7 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS, Mercedes-Benz > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, and in the US, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Lincoln Town Car and Cadillac DTS. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > information and marketing firm that provides > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > solutions to automotive and related > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > industries, has defined the term "super > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury" segment for luxury cars costing more > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > than US$100,000. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, Maybach, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Maserati, as these marques do not offer > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > lower-priced offerings in the entry-level > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury or mid-luxury segments like more > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mainstream luxury brands like BMW and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to move > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > downmarket somewhat with offerings priced > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considerably lower than their traditional > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom and Bentley > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mulsanne) such as the Rolls Royce Ghost and > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Bentley Continental GT, creating what Car > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Driver describes as the "entry-opulent > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment". Bentley, Maybach, and Rolls-Royce > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicles share platforms and engines with > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > other luxury brands from their parent auto > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company, however Rolls-Royce and Bentley are > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > assembled in England (separate from the rest > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of BMW and Volkswagen Group's production > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > plants) and this "exclusivity" has made these > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > British marques a sales success. By > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > comparison, Maybachs are built alongside the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz S-Class flagship sedan which has > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > explained why it has not fared well in the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market, furthermore the Maybach's pedigree was > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > virtually unknown outside of Germany unlike > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > its British rivals which have long enjoyed > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > renown worldwide. A > > Bentley executive was > > >> > > > > > > > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> history and obsessive luxury help to convince > > >> > > > > > > > > >> customers that a Bentley is worth the price" which is > > >> > > > > > > > > >> at least twice that of a flagship luxury car from BMW > > >> > > > > > > > > >> or Mercedes-Benz. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz are often > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > included here as well. They often have > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for great > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > refinement and smoothness, even though > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > contemporary V8 engines can make similar > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > output while being less expensive. While BMW > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sells far fewer V12-engined 7-Series vehicles > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > than V8 versions, the V12 retains popularity > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in the US, China, and Russia, as well as > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > maintaining the marque's prestige in the > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury vehicle market segment. These > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ultra-luxury trims also feature standard > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury and technology features that would be > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered optional on their V8 siblings. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed US$100,000, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > but would not necessarily be categorized as > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera does compete in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the high-end luxury/full-size luxury category. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan oleh > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > WIKIPEDIA, Toyota bukanlah merk mobil mewah > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (baca lagi definisinya di atas) untuk kelas > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mobil mewah Toyota punya merk sendiri, yaitu > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > L.... (cari sendiri jawabnya, jangan mau > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > disuapin aja). > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed US$100,000, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > but would not necessarily be categorized as > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera does compete in > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the high-end luxury/full-size luxury category. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > termasuk kedalam kelas mobil mewah, walau > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat dulu > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan kenikmatan berkendaraan > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. Baca lagi itu > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > tulisan. 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