On 03/19/2015 01:08 AM, Bostjan Skufca wrote: > - both agents request the same environment: one master returns the > whole system catalog, the other just bits to manage primary puppet
I don't quite see why the agents would have to use identical environment names. Could you perhaps also approach your problem by making the secondary agent use <environment>-meta or something in that vein? > - on puppet masters server this means duplicate environment > data/module repository clones But does the secondary agent even require a substantial amount of data and modules etc.? > - puppet is a power tool, and irresponsible users that rush > into using it, should not stand in the way of progress > > Again, that's just a thing you can say. It sounds very impressive, > but what does it mean and how does it apply to reality? > Irresponsible users or not, we're the ones that get flack for it, > that need to support it, that have crying users and get a bad name > because "Puppet nuked my system". It will never be their fault, it > will always be the fault of the system. > > > Huh? :) > Users that have systems in production they do not understand, and then > slapping puppet on top of it using modules they do not understand, > bricking the service (or the system) and yelling "Puppet nuked my > system" belong to the h(w)all of f(sh)ame, and not to the > decision-making process about puppet features. Please do not take this > personally or as offensive, as I am having a rather nice chuckle here, > with many analogies springing up on "this is the tool's fault, not > mine" subject :) There is such a thing as UX engineering. You seem to be under the impression that it is about catering to mediocre technicians. That is just not true. Anyhow, I think everybody has understood that you intend to add this functionality for use by the most advanced users only, but if this includes but 10% of all users, and only an insignificant percentage of those has any use for this whatsoever, then the value of maintaining it upstream appears unimpressive. Cheers, Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/550A1D81.8000000%40Alumni.TU-Berlin.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
