I strongly agree with you about sqlalchemy being the gateway drug to
pylons. I was just looking for an ORM at the time, and sqlalchemy
stands out as the one to try when you are doing that search. Shortly
afterwards, while I wasn't looing, it just sort of walked me over to
Pylons.

-- Will


On Aug 21, 9:48 pm, Didip Kerabat <[email protected]> wrote:
>  From my experience both are not ridiculously hard to deploy. Even  
> though pylons have more options. It's  a hard sell on that one, i  
> think. On the other hand, isn't django having problem with wsgi?
>
> Also, sqlalchemy has far more value to me than django orm. Can we  
> highlight the fact that it is easy to get up to speed in web dev using  
> sqlalchemy?
>
> We can also appeal to front end devs, the same way rails does. Django  
> opinion towards designer hurts them, imo. We should highlight the fact  
> that mako is powerful, easy to use, and doesn't assume that designers  
> are stupid.
>
> My 20 cents,
>
> Didip
>
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Wyatt Baldwin  
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 21, 3:35 pm, mickgardner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> I think one clear advantage that pylons is easily deployed, far above
> >> Django or other python based apps..
>
> > Just to make sure I understand... are you saying Pylons apps are much
> > easier to deploy compared to Django apps? Or are you saying that they
> > *should* be? I agree with the latter but not the former.
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