I think I figured it out. go to the bottom for the actual issue. Hint it's
not a permission issue. If you're good you might be able to figure it out
before the end.

I decided to get as basic as possible. I SSH'ed into the EC2 VM and with in
my home directory I used virtualenv to create a venv.

(venv)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ virtualenv -p python3 deprecation
Running virtualenv with interpreter /opt/python/run/venv/bin/python3
Using real prefix '/usr'
New python executable in deprecation/bin/python3
Also creating executable in deprecation/bin/python
Installing setuptools, pip...done.



Then I installed pyramid into that venv

(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ pip install pyramid
You are using pip version 6.0.8, however version 9.0.1 is available.
You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
Collecting pyramid
  Downloading pyramid-1.8.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl (574kB)
    100% |################################| 577kB 511kB/s
Collecting PasteDeploy>=1.5.0 (from pyramid)
  Downloading PasteDeploy-1.5.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl
Collecting zope.deprecation>=3.5.0 (from pyramid)
  Downloading zope.deprecation-4.2.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl
Collecting repoze.lru>=0.4 (from pyramid)
  Downloading repoze.lru-0.6.tar.gz
Collecting venusian>=1.0a3 (from pyramid)
  Downloading venusian-1.0.tar.gz (45kB)
    100% |################################| 49kB 3.5MB/s
Collecting WebOb>=1.7.0rc2 (from pyramid)
  Downloading WebOb-1.7.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl (83kB)
    100% |################################| 86kB 2.6MB/s
Collecting hupper (from pyramid)
  Downloading hupper-0.4.4-py2.py3-none-any.whl
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): setuptools in
./deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages (from pyramid)
Collecting translationstring>=0.4 (from pyramid)
  Downloading translationstring-1.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl
Collecting zope.interface>=3.8.0 (from pyramid)
  Downloading zope.interface-4.3.3.tar.gz (150kB)
    100% |################################| 151kB 1.7MB/s
Installing collected packages: zope.interface, translationstring, hupper,
WebOb, venusian, repoze.lru, zope.deprecation, PasteDeploy, pyramid
  Running setup.py install for zope.interface
    building 'zope.interface._zope_interface_coptimizations' extension
    gcc -pthread -Wno-unused-result -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=1
-DNDEBUG -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic
-D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC -fwrapv -fPIC -I/usr/include/python3.4m -c
src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c -o
build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.4/src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.o
    src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c:34:1: warning:
"METH_KEYWORDS" redefined
    In file included from /usr/include/python3.4m/Python.h:90,
                     from
src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c:15:
    /usr/include/python3.4m/methodobject.h:56:1: warning: this is the
location of the previous definition
    gcc -pthread -shared
build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.4/src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.o
-L/usr/lib64 -lpython3.4m -o build/lib.linux-x86_64-3.4/zope/interface/_
zope_interface_coptimizations.cpython-34m.so
    Skipping installation of
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/zope/__init__.py
(namespace package)
    Installing
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4-nspkg.pth



  Running setup.py install for venusian
  Running setup.py install for repoze.lru
    Skipping installation of
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages/repoze/__init__.py
(namespace package)
    Installing
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages/repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4-nspkg.pth




Successfully installed PasteDeploy-1.5.2 WebOb-1.7.1 hupper-0.4.4
pyramid-1.8.3 repoze.lru-0.6 translationstring-1.3 venusian-1.0
zope.deprecation-4.2.0 zope.interface-4.3.3


And then checked for zope.deprecation


(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ pip freeze
You are using pip version 6.0.8, however version 9.0.1 is available.
You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
hupper==0.4.4
PasteDeploy==1.5.2
pyramid==1.8.3
repoze.lru==0.6
translationstring==1.3
venusian==1.0
WebOb==1.7.1
zope.deprecation==4.2.0
zope.interface==4.3.3


Then I jumped into python and imported pip and made sure I still could see
it.

(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 deprecation]$ python
Python 3.4.3 (default, Sep  1 2016, 23:33:38)
[GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9)] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import pip #needed to use the pip functions
>>> for i in pip.get_installed_distributions(local_only=True):
...     print(i)
...
zope.interface 4.3.3
pip 6.0.8
pyramid 1.8.3
zope.deprecation 4.2.0
translationstring 1.3
venusian 1.0
PasteDeploy 1.5.2
repoze.lru 0.6
setuptools 12.0.5
WebOb 1.7.1
hupper 0.4.4
>>>


Then I tried to import zope.deprecation, but ng


>>> from zope.deprecation import deprecated
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'

>From here it didn't make sense. I went into site-packages and
zope.deprecation was there, BUT zope.interfaces was missing, but it was
still working? Pip happily reported that zope.interface was still there

Then as I was uninstalling/installing with various options I noticed the
paths. zope.deprecation was in lib and zope.interface was in lib64


(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ pwd
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ ls -l
total 412
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 appdirs-1.4.3.dist-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user  24701 Mar 16 02:34 appdirs.py
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    126 Mar 16 02:34 easy_install.py
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 hupper
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 hupper-0.4.4.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 packaging
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 packaging-16.8.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 paste
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13
PasteDeploy-1.5.2.dist-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    304 Mar 16 02:13
PasteDeploy-1.5.2-py2.6-nspkg.pth
drwxrwxr-x 11 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:33 pip
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:33 pip-9.0.1.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 pkg_resources
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 __pycache__
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34
pyparsing-2.2.0.dist-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user 231039 Mar 16 02:34 pyparsing.py
drwxrwxr-x  7 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 pyramid
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 pyramid-1.8.3.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 repoze
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13
repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4.egg-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    305 Mar 16 02:13
repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4-nspkg.pth
drwxrwxr-x  4 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 setuptools
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34
setuptools-34.3.2.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 six-1.10.0.dist-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user  30098 Mar 16 02:34 six.py
drwxrwxr-x  4 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 translationstring
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13
translationstring-1.3.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  5 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 venusian
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13
venusian-1.0-py3.4.egg-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 webob
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 WebOb-1.7.1.dist-info
drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:42 zope
drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:42
zope.deprecation-4.2.0.dist-info
-rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    349 Mar 16 02:42
zope.deprecation-4.2.0-py2.7-nspkg.pth
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ cd zope
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ ls -l
total 4
drwxrwxr-x 3 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 deprecation
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$


And zope.interface...

(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ pwd
/home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ ls -l
total 12
drwxrwxr-x 3 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 zope
drwxrwxr-x 2 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42
zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4.egg-info
-rw-rw-r-- 1 ec2-user ec2-user  529 Mar 16 02:42
zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4-nspkg.pth
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ cd zope
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ ls -l
total 4
drwxrwxr-x 5 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 interface
(deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$


My thought was that perhaps the interpreter was getting confused because it
found zope under lib64 but not deprecate and just gave up.To test this out
I tried uninstalling zope.interface, and I was now able to import
zope.deprecate!

SO NOW WHAT??

Anyway, I am going to sleep. I doubt I'll work on this tomorrow morning,
but if anyone can tell me how to trick the pip into installing
zope.interface into lib/site-packages instead of lib64/site-packages, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks,
--Dan


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Dan Clark <wpu.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's the traceback
>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.429962 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Target WSGI script
> '/opt/python/current/app/application.py' cannot be loaded as Python
> module.
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430078 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Exception occurred processing
> WSGI script '/opt/python/current/app/application.py'.
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430145 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376] Traceback (most recent call last):
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430237 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File "/opt/python/current/app/application.py",
> line 2, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430255 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from pyramid.config import Configurator
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430314 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/
> python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/config/__init__.py", line 12, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430329 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from pyramid.interfaces import (
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430383 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/
> python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/interfaces.py", line 1, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430399 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from zope.deprecation import deprecated
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430444 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:50376] ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569219 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Target WSGI script
> '/opt/python/current/app/application.py' cannot be loaded as Python
> module.
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569285 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Exception occurred processing
> WSGI script '/opt/python/current/app/application.py'.
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569339 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728] Traceback (most recent call last):
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569418 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File "/opt/python/current/app/application.py",
> line 2, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569435 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from pyramid.config import Configurator
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569493 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/
> python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/config/__init__.py", line 12, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569509 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from pyramid.interfaces import (
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569563 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/
> python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/interfaces.py", line 1, in <module>
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569595 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from zope.deprecation import deprecated
> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569638 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote
> 69.127.251.49:54728] ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Tres Seaver <tsea...@palladion.com>
> wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 07:23 AM, Dan Clark wrote:
>> > Tres,
>> >
>> > I just committed the hello pyramid project to
>> > https://github.com/adidas/aws_hello_pyramid. It's a simple script
>> > (with requirements.txt) that can be tweaked to recreate the issue on
>> > AWS. Just need to change the requirements.txt to use 4.2.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I ran out of time today, but if you give me another morning I
>> > can upload the project with 4.2 and get the complete traceback.
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Thanks for working on it, and for documenting your path.  If you figure
>> something out about why you are needing to pin zope.deprecation, please
>> create an issue for either pyramid[1] or zope.deprecation[2] and mentaion
>> me (@tseaver) in the description.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/issues/
>> [2] https://github.com/zopefoundation/zope.deprecation/issues
>>
>>
>> Tres.
>> - --
>> ===================================================================
>> Tres Seaver          +1 540-429-0999          tsea...@palladion.com
>> Palladion Software   "Excellence by Design"    http://palladion.com
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