Hi Nathaniel,

Philosophy of Science 101: nobody knows what TheBestSolution is and nobody
ever will.

That said, when we decided to submit PEP 654, that was a point in time when
we came to believe that we found the right solution. We made significant
changes later following feedback we agreed with, but in the case of "flat
EG" I see several disadvantages and don't quite understand what the win
is. I appreciate the invitation, but I don't want to work on that idea (nor
am I the right person to push it forward).

However, I think it's fantastic if you and others do pursue alternative
options (independently of my biases). You will either find something better
or validate PEP 654, and in either case the world wins.  Feel free to adapt
our implementation if that helps.  You have a year before we have our next
chance to commit to PEP 654.

Irit


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:18 AM Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 9:14 AM Yury Selivanov <yselivanov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Nathaniel, at this point it's clear that this thread somehow does not
> > help us understand what you want. Could you please just write your own
> > PEP clearly outlining your proposal, its upsides and downsides?
> > Without a PEP from you this thread is just a distraction.
>
> If that's the best way to move forward, then ok. My main thing is just
> that I don't want to make this some antagonistic me-vs-you thing.
> After all, we all want the best design to be chosen, and none of us
> know what that is yet, so there's no need for conflict :-).


> Irit, Yury, would you be interested in co-authoring a PEP for the
> "flat EG" approach? Basically trying to set down the best possible
> version of each approach, so that we can put them next to each other?
>
> -n
>
> --
> Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org
>
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