I rather feel like I'm flogging a dead horse here, but time for another mile...
First off, I'm not volunteering to lead this effort. I don't think anyone should even think about that until and unless the Python Powers That Be actually decide that it is worth doing. That is what I meant by 'strong leadership'. Second; 'A minor programming language'. According to http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Visual Basic is more popular than Python. That makes me feel that there is something wrong with the world. Third: "I'm curious why you think fragmented GUI choices is a particular problem for Python compared to other languages? Or why this is the main issue holding Python back? " It's not a particular problem for Python compared to other languages. It's a general problem for all programming languages. But I presume that you read this newgroup because you think Python is in some sense 'better' than other programming languages. And I think we can make it better still. Fourth: " BTW, what's your plan for producing such a leader? Because if we don't have a leader it's kind of a moot point. (I know some people asked you to volunteer, but I suspect you would agree that you're not up to the task, so I assume you are merely a visionary and have someone lined up that you've somehow convince to do the dirty work of leadership.) " I'm not a visionary and I don't have someone lined up. And I am certainly not up to the task myself. But I have watched with interest the process of turning Python2.x into Python3.x. Does that give any hints about who I think should be considering this topic (see first point)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list