Ant
I agree that the current tk situation is not completely satisfactory. In particular, the IO facilities are inadequate and have not, to my knowledge, changed in a decade. Image input formats are limited. There is no canvas output as an image. (Output of the canvase display list as a dialect of postscript that not everything can read is not a substitute for this.)

However...
I think it important that Python come with a minimal IDE that is adequate for someone like me doing Python-only development. I thank the programmers of IDLE. So merely deleting tk/tkinter is not an option. Indeed, having something similar to and at least as good as IDLE for any candidate gui replacememt should and I think would be a requirement for consideration.

The problem with the big gui application frameworks are that they are too big. The two I have glanced at -- wx... and qt -- have much more than gui stuff and duplicate parts of the Python stdlib and other 3rd party libs.

As for a small gui written in Python, you seem to have ignored the link to pygui. Of course that has its own problems. Among others: it is incomplete; it ignore Python 3 (requires 2.3+ should be 2.3 to 2.6), which is the only place it could be added; the api sytle is not standard in Python (get_xx and set_xx methods instead of direct access or properties); and there is nothing yet like IDLE.

What would be required is a Python3 GUI project with multiple contributors.

Terry Jan Reedy

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