Bruce,
I completely agree; it is worth everyone remember that we are all here
(even the moderators) as volunteers; we are here because either we want
to ask questions, or we want to learn, or we want to help.
We do need to remember that the moderators is here to be nasty or
because of a power trip - they are here to help, and they are volunteers.
Part of the really important thing about Python is the community and
this list is a critical part of that community.; lets keep it that way
please :-)
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On 05/10/18 11:22, Bruce Coram wrote:
I will declare at the outset, I am a lurker. I don't know enough
about Python to give advice that I could 100% guarantee would be helpful.
There have been two recent threads that summarise for me where the
Python Mailing List has lost its way (and this started before Trump
arrived as a new role model for how to treat your fellow man):
"Re: This thread is closed [an actual new thread]"
"Re: So apparently I've been banned from this list"
The level of vitriol and personal attacks on the moderators was
profoundly disappointing, but not totally out of character for those
who made the attacks. There is no doubt that these people know
software and Python and this certainly earns my respect, but perhaps
they need to retain a sense of perspective. There are 7 billion
people in the world. There are plenty more people at least as good as
you and many better, but they don't have the compelling urge to
demonstrate their genius. They get on with their work in a quiet
professional manner.
Some humility in acknowledging that you stand on the shoulders of
giants would not go amiss. It might also reflect that you understand
the good fortune that dealt you such a good hand in life.
You aren't always right, and you don't always have to insist on being
right. I found Steve D'Aprano always had to have the last word and
had to prove he was right. I found some of his posts to be
intemperate in tone.
Why is there a need to score points with caustic remarks or throwaway
comments? Perhaps the person who posed his question should have read
the documents, perhaps he should have searched the archives. Tell
them so politely and firmly. If you cannot manage that then why say
anything? Not everyone who posts a poorly prepared question is idle
and deserves a response that is less than polite. Prepare a
boilerplate standard reply that is polite for those questions that are
easily resolved by the poster.
Perhaps the person who posts something you regard as nonsense is
ignorant and lacks the knowledge they think they possess. Instead of
wasting your time with scholastic debate, put the time to good use
improving your education in subjects you don't excel at. I can
guarantee the depth of your ignorance will be profound - there will be
much for you to learn. The effort some of you put in to the endless
debates suggests that you have plenty of time on your hands - don't
waste it. It will be gone soon enough.
Don't waste time on the trolls, some of whom undoubtedly enjoy the
ability to provoke a response. Develop a greater sense of self
awareness to enable you to recognise that you are being played. The
intemperate tone of some of the exchanges damages the reputation of
the List.
Life is hard enough without us adding to it. Try silence as a response.
Listen to Frank Turner's latest album: "Be More Kind". That is not a
plug to buy the album, but the title seems apposite - and the music is
good.
Regards
Bruce Coram
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