Hi Georg,
Definition
root-level folders = folders on the same level as the INBOX in the filesystem
directory structure.
Example:
INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/
Trash == ~mylogin/Trash/
Sent == ~mylogin/Sent/
etc...
I have made a Maildir folder under ~mylogin as ~mylogin/Maildir/ using maildirmake and
there is no
problem delivering to it or reading from it.
The problem is this: Courier-imapd refuse to create root-level folders and insists
that all folders
should be created as subfolder of the INBOX folder.
Example:
INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/
Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/Trash/
Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/Sent/
Furthermore, since courier-imapd uses '.' as separator instead of the standard '/'
that other
Maildir-like message structures like Mh use all folders are created with a . infront.
Example:
INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/
Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Trash/
Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Sent/
The problem basically seems to be that the guy who wrote courier-imapd is so hooked on
the rfc's
that he made a imap server that breakes all clients :( (or at least netscape messanger
and microsoft
outlook, which are used by the larger part of internet users as MUA)
At first i thought that this was due to the silly choice of personal Namespace that he
made, ie.
INBOX which is a more or less reserved word in most MUA's.
But although i patched the source to use PRIVA instead it still fucked up.
So i guess it might be the '.' seperator that is the problem, though i am in know way
knowledgable
enough about the imap specs to base this on anything else than gut-feeling as a
professional
programmer of many years.
But before i take on the task of making a complete working patch for courier imapd
which supports
standard MUA's i would like to be sure that no-one has done this before me, since i am
hard pressed
on time as it is, and actually need a good working imap server that supports Maildir
now ;)
I thought about contacting the guy who wrote it, but i must admit that after reading
the FAQ and
BUGS section on the download site i doubt very much that he in anyway cares about my
problems since
he seems to think that all MUA's that doesn't speak imap his way should be fixed
*shrug*.
That is an attitude that is hard to find usefull for the rest of us IMHO.
Regards
Martin Jespersen
Georg Lutz wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> what do you mean by "root-level-folders" ?
> With a MUA you can only create folders in your INBOX. If you want to
> create public-shared-folders you have to use maildirmake (which is part
> of courier-imap), perhaps with a combination of
> /usr/lib/courierimap/etc/maildirshared.
> How folders in your private namespace are displayed, depends on the MUA
> you are using. In Netscape this are all subfolders of "INBOX".
>
> But for further information you should look at man maildirmake or at the
> courier-mailing-list.
> I am quite happy with courier-imap and I would not recommend any other
> imapd with maildir-patches.
>
> Bye
> Georg
>
> Martin Jespersen schrieb:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so
>spare me any
> > rants about getting another MUA.
> >
> > I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite
>satisfied with (the
> > maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying).
> >
> > So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine,
>but...
> >
> > It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under
>the INBOX.
> >
> > i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the
>--enable-workaround..
> >
> > i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace
>instead of INBOX
> > (yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine)
> >
> > but it is a no-go...
> >
> > maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of
>courier-imapd and changed the
> > subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except
>being super-slow
> > and outdated in alot of ways
> >
> > is there anyone who is succesfully running courier with support for netscape out
>there?
> >
> > going through the sourcecode it seems that courier actually insists that
>root-level folders should
> > reside under ./Maildir/ eg. the trashfolder is file-system wise created as
>./Maildir/Trash/
> >
> > can anyone answer me this: why? isn't this just begging for MUA problems?
> >
> > *ARGH the pain!*
> >
> > if anyone knows of ANY imap server that supports Maildir format and Netscape
>messanger at the same
> > time PLEASE tell me, because i am running out of ideas besides coding my own imap
>server and i
> > really don't feel like doing that unless i absolutely have to (i hate coding C -go
>figure :)
> >
> > if only perl was faster then i would make one today, but alas perl is no good for
>production-level
> > daemons.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Martin Jespersen
>
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