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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:30:58 -0700
From: Maxwell Smart <c...@yother.com>
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test

It took 25 minutes to arrive.  Even if you take into account that my e
mail client only checks mail every ten minutes that's still 15 minute delay.

The times are synced.

Eric Shubert wrote:
> Good thought Michael. If we keep the test case from/to his local
> domain, that shouldn't matter (I think). Definitely something good to
> check though.
>
> Michael Colvin wrote:
>> Are the system clocks sync'd?  I've had this bite me a couple times
>> in the
>> past.
>>
>>  
>> Michael J. Colvin
>> NorCal Internet Services
>> www.norcalisp.com
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:00 PM
>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Area510.net : e mail delay
>>>
>>> If I send an e mail to myself whether from a local account ie.
>>> c...@yother.com to c...@yother.com or from cjyot...@pacbell.net to
>>> c...@yother.com and vice versa it takes anywhere from 5 minutes to 20
>>> minutes for the e mail to arrive.   This occurs whether I use
>>> Thunderbird (IMAP), Squirrelmail or through the Webmin interface for
>>> checking user mail.
>>>
>>>  I have now discovered it appears to be happening on both of my
>>> toasters.  The are on different IP's and one is mail only.  This
>>> particular toaster is web, mail and slave DNS.  I have extensively
>>> tested the DNS and it's responding as expected.  The toaster that is
>>> only mail I have only tested through the Squirrelmail interface.
>>> compose>send>5-20 minute delay before it arrives in the inbox.  It used
>>> to be virtually instantaneous.
>>>
>>> Neither system is running Spamdyke and both systems are fully up to
>>> date.
>>>
>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>> Those are 2 different messages.
>>>>
>>>> Let's back up a little bit. Please explain again what you're seeing
>>>> that's leading you to conclude that there are delays.
>>>>
>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>>> I don't see any highlighting.
>>>>>> Please post to the list. There are many more eyes there. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, I have been watching the log with tail -f
>>>>>>> /var/log/qmail/smtp/current  I don't see anything out of the
>>>>>>> ordinary. Look at the times with the highlighted entry below.
>>>>>>> Between the simscan
>>>>>>> and CHKUSER is 6 minutes.  I may have restarted my toaster to check
>>>>>>> mail
>>>>>>> so it may not be relevant, but may indicate that the problem is in
>>> the
>>>>>>> simscan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a clip of entries with my e mail address.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:03:10 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <jimmierowe...@estranet.it::>
>>>>>>> remote <hbympm1:unknown:80.37.56.214> rcpt <c...@yother.com> : found
>>>>>>> existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:03:10 policy_check: remote jimmierowe...@estranet.it ->
>>> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:03:12 simscan:[18048]:CLEAN (4.70/12.00):0.9696s:VicodinES
>>>>>>> available online
>>>>>>> today!:80.37.56.214:jimmierowe...@estranet.it:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:14:29 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <oss...@laetitia.area510.net::> remote
>>>>>>> <notify.ossec.net:unknown:192.168.0.2> rcpt <c...@yother.com> : found
>>>>>>> existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:14:29 policy_check: local oss...@laetitia.area510.net ->
>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:14:29 simscan:[2708]:CLEAN (-4.40/12.00):0.7645s:OSSEC
>>>>>>> Notification - laetitia - Alert level
>>>>>>> 3:192.168.0.2:oss...@laetitia.area510.net:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:30 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com:c...@yother.com:> remote
>>>>>>> <[192.168.0.86]:unknown:192.168.0.2> rcpt <> : sender accepted
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:30 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com:c...@yother.com:> remote
>>>>>>> <[192.168.0.86]:unknown:192.168.0.2> rcpt <c...@yother.com> : found
>>>>>>> existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:30 policy_check: local c...@yother.com -> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> (AUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:30
>>>>>>> simscan:[2933]:RELAYCLIENT:0.0315s:-
>>> :192.168.0.2:c...@yother.com:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:43 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <qmailtoaster-list-return-3294-cj=yother....@qmailtoaster.com::>
>>>>>>> remote
>>>>>>> <mail.qmailtoaster.com:unknown:216.81.238.95> rcpt
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com> :
>>>>>>> found existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:43 policy_check: remote
>>>>>>> qmailtoaster-list-return-3294-cj=yother....@qmailtoaster.com ->
>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:18:51 simscan:[2950]:CLEAN (-1.60/12.00):7.7640s:Re_
>>>>>>> [qmailtoaster] Problems emailing large number of
>>>>>>> recipients:216.81.238.95:qmailtoaster-list-return-3294-
>>> cj=yother....@qmailtoaster.com:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:25:04 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com:c...@yother.com:> remote
>>>>>>> <[192.168.0.86]:unknown:192.168.0.2> rcpt <> : sender accepted
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:25:04 CHKUSER relaying rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com:c...@yother.com:> remote
>>>>>>> <[192.168.0.86]:unknown:192.168.0.2> rcpt <e...@shubes.net> : client
>>>>>>> allowed to relay
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:25:04 policy_check: local c...@yother.com -> remote
>>>>>>> e...@shubes.net (AUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:25:13
>>>>>>> simscan:[3243]:RELAYCLIENT:8.4547s:-
>>> :192.168.0.2:c...@yother.com:e...@shubes.net
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:31:46 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from <e...@shubes.net::>
>>>>>>> remote
>>>>>>> <mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org:unknown:204.13.248.72> rcpt
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com> :
>>>>>>> found existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:31:46 policy_check: remote e...@shubes.net -> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:31:47 simscan:[4066]:CLEAN (0.10/12.00):0.8290s:Re_
>>>>>>> Area510.net
>>>>>>> _ e mail delay:204.13.248.72:e...@shubes.net:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:38:48 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <jennygreen...@gjensidigenor.no::> remote
>>>>>>> <h9g3l91:unknown:95.133.78.202> rcpt <c...@yother.com> : found
>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>> recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:38:48 policy_check: remote
>>>>>>> jennygreen...@gjensidigenor.no ->
>>>>>>> local c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:38:52 simscan:[4776]:CLEAN (5.50/12.00):2.4199s:***SPAM***
>>>>>>> Great Rxmedications are at your
>>>>>>> fingertips:95.133.78.202:jennygreen...@gjensidigenor.no:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:40:36 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
>>>>>>> <annabellecampo...@imac.edu.mx::> remote
>>>>>>> <la1ldu3:unknown:84.61.8.95>
>>>>>>> rcpt <c...@yother.com> : found existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:40:36 policy_check: remote
>>>>>>> annabellecampo...@imac.edu.mx ->
>>>>>>> local c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:40:39 simscan:[5072]:SPAM REJECT
>>>>>>> (14.40/12.00):1.8574s:***SPAM*** Do you need to
>>>>>>>
>>> lose_s0me_weight?:84.61.8.95:annabellecampo...@imac.edu.mx:c...@yother.com
>>>
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:40:39 qmail-smtpd: qq hard reject (Your email is
>>>>>>> considered
>>>>>>> spam (14.40 spam-hits)): MAILFROM:<annabellecampo...@imac.edu.mx>
>>>>>>> RCPTTO:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:44:15 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from <demell...@gmail.com::>
>>>>>>> remote <mail-fx0-f206.google.com:unknown:209.85.220.206> rcpt
>>>>>>> <c...@yother.com> : found existing recipient
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:44:15 policy_check: remote demell...@gmail.com -> local
>>>>>>> c...@yother.com (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
>>>>>>> 09-24 14:44:16 simscan:[5181]:CLEAN (-0.10/12.00):0.8569s:Re_ 2000
>>>>>>> v70r
>>>>>>> downpipe:209.85.220.206:demell...@gmail.com:c...@yother.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>>>>> That directory contains all of your smtp logs.
>>>>>>>> To view the most recent log:
>>>>>>>> # qmlog smtp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tail the log:
>>>>>>>> # qmlog -f smtp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # qmlog
>>>>>>>> by itself will show you all of the options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not sure what log you're talking about /var/log/qmail/smtp/
>>>>>>>>> contents?? Not sure what I'm looking for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Have you checked the smtp log on the destination end?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jake emailed me off list.  I do stay on the list to help
>>>>>>>>>>> others.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> only thing is I am not running Spamdyke.  Other ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CJ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Max.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing you're seeing graylisting delays. That would
>>>>>>>>>>>> explain why
>>>>>>>>>>>> they go through on restarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On the destination side, you should see graylisted messages in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> smtp log.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do various configuration setting changes in
>>>>>>>>>>>> spamdyke to
>>>>>>>>>>>> control graylisting. See
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#GRAYLISTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and Max, please try to say on the list as much as
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> helps unknown others that way. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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