Ummm... Mainly I think it was laziness so that the web hosting servers
could send via these servers. (Instead of listing just the specific
internal IP's, since I add servers occasionally...)
I think there was another reason involving how my outbound mail is working,
but now that I'm trying to explain it in an e-mail, I'm not sure *that*
reason is valid, so I'll need to think about that one. :-)
The particular servers we're looking at hear, handle inbound e-mail
filtering only, then forward the mail to another cluster that's customer
facing.
So... Ok, now I need to figure out where it's getting that from, because,
I'm not sure you saw the other message, but I removed the internal network
from the whitelisting, and still nothing.
And, now that I think about it, the e-mail isn't coming from an internal IP
at the point we're looking at... The server has an internal IP, but it is
the first server to handle the e-mail, so it's not getting it from another
server with an internal IP. It has an internal IP because it's behind a
load balancer.
I think what we're seeing, and what CJ was seeing (BTW, thanks CJ, your
comment is what got me looking in this direction) was the *second* cluster,
which is getting the e-mail from the first cluster via internal IP's...I'm
not concerned with that server not scanning w/spamassassin, since it should
be scanned with the first cluster. :-) Besides, that second cluster is an
older QMR server that I want to pull out, once I get it replaced with QMT
servers...
Here's the header from your e-mail. Notice the first few lines, with one
containing "qmail-scanner". Obviously, this isn't a Toaster. Further down,
we see the Toaster's headers, which is still the area we were looking at
with the simscan entries.
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Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin not being invoked by SimContro
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So... I've checked my Spamdyke config, and don't see anything that would
cause it to pass RELAYCLIENT... No whitelisted e-mails, domains, and I
removed the IP's (Or narrowed them down to just the servers). Same
result...
But I think we might be on the right track...
Michael J. Colvin
NorCal Internet Services
www.norcalisp.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:03 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin not being invoked by SimContro
>
> Bingo! That's it all right. Nice bit of sleuthing, Michael.
>
> My apologies to CJ as he was on the right track. I missed the bit about
> your local lan addresses being whitelisted though.
>
> Spamdyke's documentation at
> http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#RELAYING says:
> "Authenticated and whitelisted connections will be allowed to relay."
>
> So my question now is, why do you have your LAN whitelisted?
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
> On 01/11/2011 07:37 PM, Michael Colvin wrote:
> > Eric.. Check this thread out... I think this may be pointing me in the
> > right direction...
> >
> > http://osdir.com/ml/mail.qmail.simscan/2007-12/msg00029.html
> >
> > The 2nd paragraph... "Because relay client is set, simscan doesnt run
> the
> > message through SpamAssassin (Since it's supposedly from a trusted
> source).
> >
> > Could spamdyke be passing a value for "RELAYCLIENT"? I've got the
> > 192.168.100.0/24 (The private network my mail cluster is on)
> "Whitelisted"
> > in spamdyke...
> >
> > Any place else that might be passing RELAYCLIENT? It's not in my
> tcp.smtp
> > file.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael J. Colvin
> > NorCal Internet Services
> > www.norcalisp.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:06 AM
> >> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> >> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin not being invoked by SimContro
> >>
> >> I'm at a loss Michael. I think I'd look closer into spamassassin at
> this
> >> point. Can you invoke SA 'manually'?
> >>
> >> On 01/11/2011 11:13 AM, Michael Colvin wrote:
> >>> Here you go Eric. Both servers had identical outputs, other than one
> >> being
> >>> installed the day after this one. :-)
> >>>
> >>> Name : simscan-toaster Relocations: (not
> >> relocatable)
> >>> Version : 1.4.0 Vendor: (none)
> >>> Release : 1.3.8 Build Date: Fri 29 Oct
> 2010
> >>> 02:28:37 AM PDT
> >>> Install Date: Fri 29 Oct 2010 02:30:25 AM PDT Build Host:
> >>> mail-1.norcalisp.com
> >>> Group : Networking/Other Source RPM:
> >>> simscan-toaster-1.4.0-1.3.8.src.rpm
> >>> Size : 113364 License: GPL
> >>> Signature : (none)
> >>> Packager : Jake Vickers<j...@qmailtoaster.com>
> >>> URL : http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail
> >>> Summary : Simscan for qmail-toaster
> >>> Description :
> >>>
> >>> SimScan is a simplified scanner for qmail similar to qmail-scanner and
> >>> qscand.
> >>> It uses clamav, trophie, and/or spamassassin. It also supports
> >> attachment
> >>> blocking by extension. Simscan is written entirely in C to ensure
> >> maximum
> >>> speed. There are several options to allow simscan to scan per domain,
> >> and
> >>> reject spam mail.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Current settings
> >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>> user = clamav
> >>> qmail directory = /var/qmail
> >>> work directory = /var/qmail/simscan
> >>> control directory = /var/qmail/control
> >>> qmail queue program = /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue
> >>> clamdscan program = /usr/bin/clamdscan
> >>> clamav scan = ON
> >>> trophie scanning = OFF
> >>> attachement scan = ON
> >>> ripmime program = /usr/bin/ripmime
> >>> custom smtp reject = ON
> >>> drop message = OFF
> >>> regex scanner = OFF
> >>> quarantine processing = OFF
> >>> domain based checking = ON
> >>> add received header = ON
> >>> spam scanning = ON
> >>> spamc program = /usr/bin/spamc
> >>> spamc arguments =
> >>> spamc user = OFF
> >>> authenticated users scanned = OFF
> >>> spam passthru = OFF
> >>> spam hits = 40
> >>>
> >>> Current simcontrol config
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>> :clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=12,attach=.mp3:.src:.bat:.pif
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Michael J. Colvin
> >>> NorCal Internet Services
> >>> www.norcalisp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:36 AM
> >>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> >>>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin not being invoked by
> SimContro
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think so, Cecil. I have QMT hosts behind NAT routers, and SA
> >>>> still scans. Authenticated submissions aren't scanned though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael, can you post your
> >>>> # rpm -qi simscan-toaster
> >>>> (just double checking)
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> -Eric 'shubes'
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/11/2011 09:10 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr wrote:
> >>>>> Isn't there something about LAN addresses not being scanned?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quoting "Michael J. Colvin"<mcol...@norcalisp.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> OK. Tcp.smtp now looks like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> :allow,BADMIMETYPE="",SENDER_NOCHECK="1",BADLOADERTYPE="M",QMAILQUEUE="/va
> >>>> r/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> qmail/bin/simscan",NOP0FCHECK="1"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Header information is still the same:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Received: (qmail 28565 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jan 2011 04:41:02 -
> >> 0800
> >>>>>> Received: from 192.168.100.122 by mail.norcalisp.com (envelope-from
> >>>>>> <norcalinter...@gmail.com>, uid 1008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-
> qms
> >>>>>> (clamdscan: 0.91.2/1082. spamassassin: 3.2.0. perlscan: 1.25-st-
> qms.
> >>>>>> Clear:RC:1(192.168.100.122):.
> >>>>>> Processed in 0.066093 secs); 11 Jan 2011 12:41:02 -0000
> >>>>>> X-Antivirus-NorCalISP-Mail-From: norcalinter...@gmail.com via
> >>>>>> mail.norcalisp.com
> >>>>>> X-Antivirus-NorCalISP: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(192.168.100.122):.
> >>>>>> Processed
> >>>>>> in 0.066093 secs Process 28558)
> >>>>>> Received: from unknown (HELO mail.norcalisp.com) (192.168.100.122)
> >>>>>> by mail.norcalisp.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2011 04:41:02 -0800
> >>>>>> Received: (qmail 12610 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jan 2011 12:41:01 -
> 0000
> >>>>>> Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 12605, pid: 12606, t: 0.0623s
> >>>>>> scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.96.3/m:53/d:12505
> >>>>>> Received: from unknown (HELO mail-iw0-f177.google.com)
> >> (209.85.214.177)
> >>>>>> by mail.norcalisp.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2011 12:41:01 -0000
> >>>>>> Received: by iwn38 with SMTP id 38so21353335iwn.36
> >>>>>> for<mcol...@norcalisp.com>; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:40:29 -0800 (PST)
> >>>>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> >>>>>> d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
> >>>>>> h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-
> id
> >>>>>> :subject:from:to:content-type;
> >>>>>> bh=4s2kmb0Iocy2ztenUiYdvwfIbdXrWGJeKE8RR03gj6M=;
> >>>>>>
> b=AeiBKelfTf69Q/7TaoVAOqclbwmsAtr9RHblGmZZ5oL2ItVlbR3QbvwR2P0mijE3BM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> KT9zmta/DCJW18pRpoKgLalMbWis+Uc7DBF1wPG+cbKidqL0aIctyYzASvBT93LYtepG
> >>>>>> cVdflalC1w9g0xudt1bjHwJkg4FmtC0EkoZ9A=
> >>>>>> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
> >>>>>> d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
> >>>>>> h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type;
> >>>>>>
> b=pFOBpl0EItTK62RMwoCVcr8N0UknO/Rwu9KA9n4puf1BIOTWDBWLhUqThVh1DXvTjY
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> jibiALvAE5jyGJCwqA2UgmqdcvNSeZQ7ylhYp5KLxYoa9CqyX0qohG9Xvn4M0g3dX/yJ
> >>>>>> M1bLffv+FTJoqp9sKJ0ro4s/+EhvWQpm2cQGs=
> >>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>>>>> Received: by 10.42.241.199 with SMTP id
> >>>> lf7mr4139326icb.93.1294749629840;
> >>>>>> Tue,
> >>>>>> 11 Jan 2011 04:40:29 -0800 (PST)
> >>>>>> Received: by 10.42.230.5 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:40:29 -0800
> >>>> (PST)
> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:40:29 -0800
> >>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>> <aanlktimo65iopgbztonw-opm2d7cvp4xhydcmbg4u...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Testing
> >>>>>> From: NorCal Internet<norcalinter...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: Michael Colvin<mcol...@norcalisp.com>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >>>>>> boundary=20cf305496a9c27d9b04999163ea
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No change on the "simscan" line... I still don't see anything in
> >> qmlog
> >>>>>> spamd, other than the "Startup" stuff that was there from my last
> >>>> post...
> >>>>>> In fact, there's nothing but what I posted last time, since the
> >> server
> >>>>>> hasn't restarted... There's been no log entries in spamd since
> >>>>>> 1/9/2011...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> SpamAssassin is "On" in the default QMT, right? I mean, it's
> >> obviously
> >>>>>> installed on the system, and SimScan is running... It just seems
> like
> >>>>>> something is missing, and it's on both servers... I know this is
> >> going
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> end in one of those "Duh!" moments... :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:39 AM
> >>>>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> >>>>>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin not being invoked by
> >> SimContro
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 01/09/2011 09:17 PM, Michael J. Colvin wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have you run
> >>>>>>>> # qmailctl cdb
> >>>>>>>> recently?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Several times, and even rebooted the whole server (Both of them)
> to
> >>>> make
> >>>>>>> sure the new cdb files were loaded. The cdb file's date stamp is
> >> being
> >>>>>>> updated when I run qmailctl cdb.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Again, what I think is the strangest part is, this is happening on
> >> two
> >>>>>>> totally separate machines, both with basically "Stock" ISO
> installs
> >> on
> >>>>>>> them... If it was happening to just one, I'd lean towards a config
> >>>>>> error...
> >>>>>>> But with two of them, it's either something I did too both of them
> >>>>>>> (Possible, of course) or something else... And, like I said, I
> >> haven't
> >>>>>>> changed much from the stock install... Just the rcpthosts,
> >> smtproutes,
> >>>>>>> tcp.smtp (As posted) and I think that's about it..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (Shrug)...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's my tcp.smtp entry:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> :allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT="50",CHKUSER_WRO
> >>>> NG
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> RCPTLIMIT="10",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/cont
> >>>> ro
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> l/domainkeys/%/private",NOP0FCHECK="1"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You appear to be missing NOP0FCHECK="1" in your configuration.
> IIRC,
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> really need that. I don't recall what happens w/out it, but I'd put
> >> it
> >>>>>> in and see if that fixes things.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> -Eric 'shubes'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> --
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> -Eric 'shubes'
> >>
> >>
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