On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, steve wrote:

> I am planning on forcing customers to SMTP auth ( in fact we are doing that
> by default on all tech calls now in advance), but am not going to just turn
> off the switch in one day. I have mine set to use smtp auth and mynetworks.
> I am going to send out an email instructing users how to reconfigure their
> clients and how to call for help (or look on my site for detailed
> instructions)...then at some point down the road when most of the tech calls
> are behind us, I am going to gradually start pulling netmasks out of my
> mynetworks file until customers are migrated over.
> 

if you want instructions, i wrote step by step ones (along with some from 
the net) a little while back, for the major clients. outlooks, netscapes, 
eudora.
let me know, i'll send them to you.

--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              http://www.asteroid-b612.org

            "This will prove a brave kingdom to me, 
                  where I shall have my music for nothing"
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> 
> Steve
> CCI
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Alan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Subscribers of Qpopper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Relaying Denied
> 
> 
> > > Why would netscape 4 for Mac choke and not other versions? I think you
> > > may be chasing a strawman there.
> >
> > AFAIK all versions of Netscape 4 have the problem that if AUTH is
> offerred,
> > the client must be configured to authenticate.  The only reason I
> mentioned
> > Macs is that Netscape 4 is the most common mail client on Mac OS/8 and
> > OS/9.  Many Mac users hate Microsoft so much they won't use OE.  Now
> > with OS/X, Apple has its own mail client which was pretty spartan in
> version
> > 1.1 but is more full-featured in version 1.2.
> >
> > Regarding dictating to a customer base that they must use SMTP AUTH,
> > you must have a captive customer base.  If we turned that on one day we
> > would get thousands of angry tech support calls and a sizable percentage
> > would switch to another ISP if only out of spite.  When you're in a
> > commodity
> > service business, and all your customers think they know what they're
> doing
> > even if they don't, and they think it's always your fault even though it
> > usually
> > isn't, then we can't take the attitude "what, are you too stupid to check
> a
> > box
> > and fill in your username and password?"
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              http://www.asteroid-b612.org

            "This will prove a brave kingdom to me, 
                  where I shall have my music for nothing"
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