I figured it was something with the pop client.  The webmail system we
have in place is nothing more than a pop client.  I believe that the
uidl is going to be the problem.

Thanks everyone for the help,


Charley Morgan
Internet Engineer
Megagate Broadband
Phone: 601.450.2580 

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Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper

Guys,

This is a not unusual problem with pop clients and servers - certainly
not a qpopper problem.
You will find that all those problematic mailboxes actually did have
messages left in them - qpopper did not somehow place mail in them
nor did it find them elsewhere and deliver them to the pop client.
At some stage those users left mail on the server and their client
from then on did not recognise them as new messages so continued to
leave them there.
The users who do not have a problem simply did not leave any messages
on the server.

Someone more cluey than me will be able to explain exactly the
mechanics of uidl but I do know that it is somehow related to the
mailbox itself and the pop server.
When you do something - like change to a different pop server or move
the mailboxes that somehow triggers the server to tell the client that
those messages are new - so they get downloaded. If they continue to get
downloaded then it probably means that the message is not being deleted
from the server - almost certainly a problem with the pop client...

I hope this helps a bit...

Regards, Peter

Original message from Charley Morgan:
> 
> I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail Switch 2.2(the commercial version
> of Sendmail).  I run procmail as the local mailer and am currently
> running ipop3d(the version that came with the Sun Internet Mail Server
> that was packaged with Solaris 7.)  I tested qpopper 4.0.3 a few
months
> ago when we began having problems with customers mailboxes locking up
> for no reason.  We could simply move the mailbox to a temp file, send
a
> new test message and have the user check it and delete it, then simply
> move the temp mailbox back and then they could download the messages.
> Weird.  Anyway, back to the point, once qpopper was installed,
customers
> began receiving messages that they had already received many months
ago.
> It's not that the messages were never delivered, it's just that they
> appeared again.  That is why I am thinking that the when my users
> checked their mail using our webmail server, which just retrieves
> messages using pop3, that somehow qpopper saw the messages on the
> webmail server as new messages and was somehow downloading them back
to
> the server.  Even getting the messages that were in the users deleted
> items in webmail.  Does that sound possible?  I didn't think that pop3
> could do anything like that though.
> 
> I am going to do some testing on a second server I have available and
> see what happens.  I will update everyone once my testing is done.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charley Morgan
> Internet Engineer
> Megagate Broadband
> Phone: 601.450.2580 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:24 AM
> To: Charley Morgan; Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
> 
> Hi all
> I am replying to this as I have a similar problem that I have been
> trying to 
> track for a while now.
> Suddenly(about 10 days ago) I start getting mail in from a couple of
> months 
> ago.
> It is rather embarrasing as it was an invite to customers and some of
> them are 
> mad because they wanted to partake in the special.
> I checked the headers and mailman, mailscanner server, and
> sendmail/procmail  
> on the box delivered it on that day.
> It also happens randomly and I can not see a specifc pattern. Of the
> tens of 
> thousands that I sent I recon 500 or 600 have problem.
> I will be interested to see the headers of the mail that you got in
> late. 
> Check if sendmail delivered it correctly a year ago that way we can
see
> where 
> your problem is.
> I use redhat 7.3 sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper  version 4.0.3
(standalone)
> The only thing I cannot varify is qpopper.
> 
> Tnx
> 
> Mozzi
> 

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