On Mar 26, 2010, at 12:20 AM, King Bill (Nokia-D-Qt/Brisbane) wrote:

> On 03/25/2010 07:40 PM, Ziller Eike (Nokia-D-Qt/Berlin) wrote:
>> 
>> Especially regarding Qt Creator's Qml support, a CI system for Qt Creator 
>> would be mostly pointless.
>> 
> Unless it produced a point of stability, say a branch in both qt and
> creator called qtcreator_stable, that's had minimal build and run
> testing, it's a known quality that people can understand, currently
> that's not even available, and you have to rewind one or both until you
> get something that works. (something that's both difficult and time
> consuming).

Well, except that we don't have windows binary builds for for various reasons 
at the moment, we have nightly binary builds of Qt Creator master on top of Qt 
4.7 (or before a release the release branches), which you could use to find the 
last working thing for you. (Of course you should still bug us about issues you 
find, increasing the chances that it will be fixed in a timely manner.)
ftp://ftp.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator/snapshots

The known quality of the binary snapshots is obviously that it had minimal 
build testing ;)

>> Because most of the time when Qt Creator builds break in Qml support, it is 
>> because of changes in Qt/QML that don't yet have corresponding changes in Qt 
>> Creator.
>> We already have to handle the problem that "synchronized changes" in Qt and 
>> Qt Creator first need the change in Qt/mainline, and only then the 
>> corresponding change in Qt Creator can be pushed. That wouldn't get better 
>> with yet another process in between for the Qt Creator changes.
>> Also the current CI system is barely able to handle Qt at the moment, 
>> resources-wise (that will hopefully be mended, but takes time).
>> 
>> We have nighlty builds btw, and there is a (admittedly slow) progress 
>> ongoing to move that to pulse, so we'll hopefully profit from the 
>> infrastructure there in the longer run.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Can I help this somehow? Rohan's just around the corner, so I can pester
> him in person if it's that that's needed.

I don't think that pestering is what is needed, because afaik he's got the 
important Job of making the CI system (more) usable for Qt already,
and I wouldn't like to keep him from doing that first :)

-- 
Eike Ziller
Software Engineer
Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks

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