It shouldn't idle at all with the idle valve disconnected, the valve should be fully closed when it's unplugged and there shouldn't be enough air coming past the butterfly to let the engine idle.

That suggests air getting in somewhere else or a problem with the throttle stop or butterfly.

Jim



On 07/06/2010 11:06, geoff ward wrote:
Jim,
Disconnecting the MAF was very similar to disconnecting the idle speed control valve or the throttle position sensor, it will idle at a more sensible speed but runs really rough.
We used the loom from the doner escort, plastic inlet.
Geoff.


On 7 June 2010 10:54, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

    When you fitted the alloy inlet manifold which injector wiring
    loom did you fit, the one from the alloy manifold or the one from
    the Escort plastic manifold ?

    As somebody else found recently there are slight wiring
    differences between the 2 involving the cam sensor and air
    temperature sensors.

    Jim



    On 07/06/2010 10:42, geoff ward wrote:
    Hi Jim,
    Not sure about that, don't know what you mean by throttle pot,
    hopefully Steve will respond.
    At the moment the car is in Aylesbury but has been at Steve's
    near Woking.
    Geoff.

    On 7 June 2010 10:28, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info
    <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

        Did you do any electrical tests on the throttle pot.
        Where is the car ?

        Jim



        On 07/06/2010 10:19, geoff ward wrote:
        Hi all and thanks again for all the helpful suggestions.
        Steve and I have checked and double checked through all that
        has been suggested, every thing seems to work as it should
        individually. The idle speed control vale has been
        thoroughly cleaned again and checked to see that it works,
        then refitted with a new gasket and that it receives input,
        electronically, from its plug. Steve has checked all the
        connections with his testing equipment, it's all beyond me!,
        and it all works. We have reset the ECU yet again, despite
        spending all day Saturday trying to get it to run properly,
        it still has the same problem.
        Thank you Steve for all the time and effort you have put in
        so far to try and fix it.
        So if any of you have any further suggestions, we would be
        pleased to hear them, as Carole and I are getting worried
        now, with only one weekend to go before we head to Scotland.
        Yours hopefully Geoff.

        On 1 June 2010 22:59, geoff ward <carole.ge...@gmail.com
        <mailto:carole.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Thank you to all for your help and advice, I will do a
bit more checking and cleaning of contacts etc tomorrow. The strangest thing,as Steve mentioned in his
            original post, is that the engine idles perfectly
            at around 900 - 1000 rpm (according to the XR2 rev
            counter) when you first start it up. I have followed the
            method for resetting the ECU 4 times know and it has had
            good idle speed every time for the first stage of the
            reset, ie allow to idle for 10 -15 mins (DO NOT TOUCH
            THE THROTTLE) it only goes all wrong after that! As soon
            as you start to drive it, that's when it wont idle
            properly anymore.
            Carole say thank you all.
            Regards, Geoff.
            On 1 June 2010 12:29, Steve Kodz <st...@h4-turbo.co.uk
            <mailto:st...@h4-turbo.co.uk>> wrote:

                We're getting a very bad idle with the Zetec in
                Carole's 2+2.  With the idle
                speed control valve connected from cold it will idle
                nicely at around
                1000rpm, if just left to idle and warm through.
                 However if you rev, or
                drive that car the best idle to can get is between
                2-3,000 rpm, which isn't
                great :(  The car also drives badly, having
                hesitation and then you fight
                the engine on the over run.

                It is a lot better with the ISCV disconnected, but
                still not great.  The
                idle is still a bit high, being around 1,200 rpm and
                it still doesn't drive
                that great.

                We've tried resetting the ECU to re-program it and
                Geoff's cleaned all the
                electrical contact and the ISCV.  Any ideas what
                else needs to be done to
                get this ready before the HHII?

                Regards,
                Steve
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