On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/08/2017 04:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote: > > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote: > >> > >>> W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine > >>> napisał: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I'm looking to build a new Desktop specifically for Qubes OS, so my most > >>>> important requirement is compatibility. I currently have 64GB (4 x 16GB) > >>>> 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3400 (PC4 27200)[0] that I'd like to use, and > >>>> I'm looking for a recommendation for the motherboard and CPU. Preferably > >>>> a 6+ cores CPU. What do you guys use? > >>>> > >>>> I'm aware of the HCL page, but I'm mostly interested in knowing your > >>>> personal experience with your current hardware. > >>>> > >>>> [0]: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232264 > >>> Zero issues with i7-6800K on an AsRock X99 board. Has PS/2 port, > >>> disabling Management Engine is possible via built in flashing tool, all > >>> hardware sensors were detected and it supports PCI-E bifurcation > >>> alongside SR-IOV. I'm running Mini-itx version which may be unsuitable > >>> for your needs as it only takes 32GB of ram but it would be pretty safe > >>> to assume that full-size AsRock X99 motherboards would also be fully > >>> compatible with Qubes. > >> That isn't disabling ME, nor ME cleaner - you can NOT disable ME - it is > >> impossible even the HAP tool doesn't do so. > > What's the ME and why disable it? > > > >> Your only hope is to buy hardware without it such as the new enough to > >> be useful Socket G34 and C32 AMD PRE-PSP Systems, boards KGPE-D16 and > >> KCMA-D8 have libre firmware available and can play video games in a VM > >> via IOMMU-GFX, they also have dual onboard separate USB controllers (you > >> can use the second via a breakout bracket) > > So I looked at both of these boards[0], they take a DDR3 board, but I found > > this one[1] that takes DDR4, does it still have opensource firmware? > > > > [0]: > > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?CompareItemList=%2D1%7C13%2D131%2D670%5E13%2D131%2D670%2C13%2D131%2D643%5E13%2D131%2D643 > > [1]: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132257 > > > That is an entirely unrelated motherboard, the only thing in common is > that they re-used the model suffix "D16" other than that is is > completely different and as it is intel no it can't and it doesn't. > > Just get a KGPE-D16 or KCMA-D8 - they're great boards - not only do they > have libre firmware but they also have a secure libre OpenBMC firmware > for remote management. > https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-status.php > > The D16 comes with the required BMC module (ASMB4-iKVM or ASMB5-iKVM) > but the D8 doesn't. > > Sell your DDR4 RAM, the only thing with open source firmware that > accepts DDR4 is the TALOS 2 for $4K - while that is an average price for > server hardware in its performance class (actually a good deal compared > with intel where a single xeon CPU alone costs thousands and only has > one thread per core vs POWER9 8 SMT threads per core) it is still a lot > of money unless you have a need for incredible speed and or incredible > security (POWER9 is open source hardware and entirely owner owner > controlled with no hardware code signing enforcement one can even modify > the microcode)
What do you think of this build https://screenshots.firefox.com/fHb14uahx7lEeAGe/secure.newegg.com ? I'm still missing cooler, power supply and possibly a TPM, I'd love your recommendation for these. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/171938a2-9f55-4409-be23-42a3216d7633%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
