On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 1:06:13 PM UTC+1, ludwig jaffe wrote:
> Problem after some diskfull errors:
> see my post: "data panic (disc full) / want to mount nas with nfs and backup 
> all in /var/lib/cubes", where I managed to recover the data and to repair the 
> file systems.
> --
> the box is up and running, but ....
> --
> The Qubes-VM-Manager only shows running VMs and not all the VMs that are
> there, but from the menue button one can start the shells of these VMs,
> which causes the vms to be started.
> 
> Also I can not change the disk size of private.img in the shutdown 
> personal vm. And maybe others.
> 
> What happened to qubes-vm manager?
> -> Disk got full and maybe, it could not write configs correncty
> -> I deleted some not needed VMs by hand 
> rm -rf /var/lib/qubes/appvm/some_stupid_appliance in order to get space,
> before I started the recovery with the nas and kali linux
> 
> 
> so could be, that qubes vm manager did not like this.
> 
> How to fix qubes vm manager?!

Now I know you're talking about Qubes 3.2. here, but this issue might possibly 
be related to Qubes 4. The Qubes VM Manager was originally planned to be 
out-phased in Qubes 4 and was supposed to become a relic of the past. But due 
to many people having an easier time having a visual GUI that the VM Manager 
provides, the Qubes developers brought it back recently in Qubes 4. However it 
still needs some updates and fixes before it can run a bit more smooth.

So here's thhe thing. Due to limited time and busy schedules to make everything 
for Qubes, I suspect that some of the updates designed for Qubes 4 has also 
arrived and mixed in with Qubes 3.2. to some extent. For example updates in 
qvm-usb, updates to the Qubes-tools, and so forth.

Now that doesn't mean all packages that resides on both Qubes 3.2. and Qubes 4 
are equally updated. All I'm suspecting here, is that "some" might slip through 
to Qubes 3.2.

Basically, in Qubes 4 the Qubes mechanics has become so different, that the 
VM-Manager will take major re-work to make it work properly again. However it's 
already been brought back to a state where it's useful, albeit a bit slow. But 
the cool thing with the Qubes 4 VM-Manager is that the window now can be 
re-sized, although it doesn't yet remember the previous window size, but 
hopefully that's fixed sometime soon.

Either way, this could be a possible explanation, but I'm no expert, and this 
is only and merely a suspicion. Qubes 4 required a lot of work, and they're not 
quite done yet either. They're busy with it, and it's probably taken longer 
than anyone ever expected, although it has brought about some really good 
results so it's imho been well worth it.

Thing is though, Qubes 3.2. was probably not meant to be around this long, and 
it might be starting to show. But that's just be postulating, there might be 
another possible explanation.

But for what it's worth, having used Qubes 4 since RC-2, it's actually become 
quite stable now. If RC-4 is not out soon, then maybe upgrade to Qubes 4 RC-3? 
Also updates meant for RC-4 has been posted to Qubes 4 RC-3 current-testing 
too. Although it reamins to be seen whether a re-install is recommended between 
RC-3 and the yet to be released RC-4, the developers will tell us on the 
release day in the release news article, if any of the previous releases 
procedures is to go by.

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