On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-5, Yuraeitha wrote:
> On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 1:06:13 PM UTC+1, ludwig jaffe wrote:
> > Problem after some diskfull errors:
> > see my post: "data panic (disc full) / want to mount nas with nfs and 
> > backup all in /var/lib/cubes", where I managed to recover the data and to 
> > repair the file systems.
> > --
> > the box is up and running, but ....
> > --
> > The Qubes-VM-Manager only shows running VMs and not all the VMs that are
> > there, but from the menue button one can start the shells of these VMs,
> > which causes the vms to be started.
> > 
> > Also I can not change the disk size of private.img in the shutdown 
> > personal vm. And maybe others.
> > 
> > What happened to qubes-vm manager?
> > -> Disk got full and maybe, it could not write configs correncty
> > -> I deleted some not needed VMs by hand 
> > rm -rf /var/lib/qubes/appvm/some_stupid_appliance in order to get space,
> > before I started the recovery with the nas and kali linux
> > 
> > 
> > so could be, that qubes vm manager did not like this.
> > 
> > How to fix qubes vm manager?!
> 
> Now I know you're talking about Qubes 3.2. here, but this issue might 
> possibly be related to Qubes 4. The Qubes VM Manager was originally planned 
> to be out-phased in Qubes 4 and was supposed to become a relic of the past. 
> But due to many people having an easier time having a visual GUI that the VM 
> Manager provides, the Qubes developers brought it back recently in Qubes 4. 
> However it still needs some updates and fixes before it can run a bit more 
> smooth.
> 
> So here's thhe thing. Due to limited time and busy schedules to make 
> everything for Qubes, I suspect that some of the updates designed for Qubes 4 
> has also arrived and mixed in with Qubes 3.2. to some extent. For example 
> updates in qvm-usb, updates to the Qubes-tools, and so forth.
> 
> Now that doesn't mean all packages that resides on both Qubes 3.2. and Qubes 
> 4 are equally updated. All I'm suspecting here, is that "some" might slip 
> through to Qubes 3.2.
> 
> Basically, in Qubes 4 the Qubes mechanics has become so different, that the 
> VM-Manager will take major re-work to make it work properly again. However 
> it's already been brought back to a state where it's useful, albeit a bit 
> slow. But the cool thing with the Qubes 4 VM-Manager is that the window now 
> can be re-sized, although it doesn't yet remember the previous window size, 
> but hopefully that's fixed sometime soon.
> 
> Either way, this could be a possible explanation, but I'm no expert, and this 
> is only and merely a suspicion. Qubes 4 required a lot of work, and they're 
> not quite done yet either. They're busy with it, and it's probably taken 
> longer than anyone ever expected, although it has brought about some really 
> good results so it's imho been well worth it.
> 
> Thing is though, Qubes 3.2. was probably not meant to be around this long, 
> and it might be starting to show. But that's just be postulating, there might 
> be another possible explanation.
> 
> But for what it's worth, having used Qubes 4 since RC-2, it's actually become 
> quite stable now. If RC-4 is not out soon, then maybe upgrade to Qubes 4 
> RC-3? Also updates meant for RC-4 has been posted to Qubes 4 RC-3 
> current-testing too. Although it reamins to be seen whether a re-install is 
> recommended between RC-3 and the yet to be released RC-4, the developers will 
> tell us on the release day in the release news article, if any of the 
> previous releases procedures is to go by.

Hi, as there is RC-4 of something, it is clever to stick with qubes3.2 until 
there will be 4.1.
Also I would like to know how the qubes manager works, in order to fix it my 
self (maybe, I need to edit some XML), if nobody wants to help.

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