On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:26:00 -0800 (PST)
Bryce <scott.lewis.engin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 6:37:47 AM UTC-5, Mike Keehan wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, what a shame.  It does seem as if your iommu is a problem.
> > 
> > Without any other ideas, the only thing I can suggest is that you
> > try the latest Qubes 3.2 just to allow you to try out Qubes.  It
> > doesn't require the vt-d stuff, so might work on your box.
> > 
> > The other thing you can do is try googling for iommu and your cpu
> > together to see if others have had problems (not necessarily in
> > Qubes, just in general use).
> >  
> >       Mike.  
> 
> Well, just to put this out there, it seems as if my CPU doesn't
> support SLAT and maybe that's why (I thought from intel's page it
> did). Installing the latest 3 stable and I don't get any errors about
> IOMMU like I did with 4, but just like with 4 I do have to disable
> vt-d in bios in order to boot to the installer.
> 
> Unfortunately as soon as I turn vt-d back on, the system goes thru
> post, I see qubes start to boot and then after a minute (about when I
> think I'd see the disk password prompt) I get a message from my
> monitor that the input timing is wrong, which I've never seen on
> several other operating systems! Wierldy, I was able to reproduce
> this behavior by turning off vt-d, booting up fully and then was able
> to update without issues unlike in 4. Rebooted twice without issues,
> then turned vt-d back on and got the exact same behavior.
> 
> So I guess I just try out using 3.2 without vt-d.
> 
> I'll take a look around the users' group, but I don't see any real
> details on the qubes site for what the key differences are between 3
> & 4 are, can anyone point me to something that will tell me how worth
> it (secure) that it is to use 3.2 instead of replacing hardware to
> run 4?
> 

Hi Bryce,

Glad you got something working for you :)

This is a good description of the changes in Qubes 4.0 :-
   https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/releases/4.0/release-notes/

Mike.

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