Wow, you guys are way way ahead of me! I didn't even realize you could
change patches in the middle of a track like that! I'm still of the
old school, one track equals one patch, and if you want another, you
use another track on another channel. I must give this a go and see
how it works.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:02:51 -0600, you wrote:

>So it's a switch and that allows you to turn it off.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>Raymond Grote
>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:09 PM
>To: QWS list
>Subject: Re: QWS List bank an program numbers
>
>Hi,
>This would be a great idea, but I think there's a problem. depending at 
>where you were when you saved the file, the tracks would have diferent 
>names. So, if you started one track with an acoustic piano, then switched to
>
>electric, the track name would depend on where you were when you played and 
>saved the file. And, as often as I like to change instruments on tracks, 
>that, as wellas the alerts, could get annoying at least for me.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
>To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:31 PM
>Subject: RE: QWS List bank an program numbers
>
>
>> What might be nice is if the program chased patch names in the same way 
>> some
>> older sequencers like Sequencer Plus chased controllers. Say I jump to
>> measure 54 in a track. The program would look back to the previous
>> controller change and update things so that when I hit play the controller
>> sounded correct there. If this were done with program change numbers in a
>> track then the name might change, though I suspect it'd be better if a 
>> flash
>> box popped up and said, "track 2, program changed to patch, Hitting Child 
>> on
>> the Head with a rock" or something like that.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> James Bowden
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:26 PM
>> To: QWS list
>> Subject: Re: QWS List bank an program numbers
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I just want to pick up again on the instrument list
>> reflecting program and bank messages received:
>>
>> I have just tried it using both my Korg X5 and my Fantom-XR.  Results:
>>
>> 1.  Korg X5: this is set to send both program and bank messages: if I'm in
>> the track properties dialog, as soon as I change sound on the keyboard, 
>> the
>> program number, bank number and instrument list are updated.  This means 
>> if
>> the Windows focus is on the instrument list, my screen reader immediately
>> announces the newly selected instrument.  I think
>> this is what you're asking?  On my X5, I can either use the Up/Down 
>> buttons,
>> the Bank Select button or directly enter a value on the number pad.
>>
>> 2.  Fantom-XR.  When I turn the Value dial on the Fantom, no MIDI data is
>> being transmitted from the unit, so it will be impossible for QWS or
>> anything else to work out what instrument you are selecting.
>>
>> I recall in the Fantom manual, it mentioned a setting somewhere called
>> something like Tx Data.  It's off by default I think, but if you turn it 
>> on,
>> I imagine the Fantom will transmit relevant MIDI data.  In this case, QWS
>> will pick up on the messages and the instrument list will reflect the
>> correct data and it will be read.  Unfortunately, I cannot recall exactly
>> where this setting is in the menu structure.
>>
>> Incidentally, if you'd like me to go through some of the Fantom-XR screens
>> with you off list, please let me know.
>>
>> Forgive me if I've not got what you're asking.
>>
>>
>> Now, regarding a spreadsheet-like control &c, it's an interesting idea, 
>> but
>> I think this would possibly cause problems : not least because there is no
>> "standard" spreadsheet control.  It would mean that if I invented 
>> something
>> (which would be a lot of work in itself), there's a good chance that it
>> would not be fully accessible with all screen readers, i.e.
>> out-of-the-box.
>>
>> At the moment, all fields of the Track Properties are labelled and all
>> fields have shortcut keys.  The majority of fields are spinnable (you can
>> use Up/Down) or you can directly enter values.  This sounds very much like
>> what you are asking for.  If you type a value, just Tab to another field 
>> and
>> the value will be taken and sent if needed.
>>
>> You also mentioned about populating the track name with the instrument 
>> name
>> if it is blank.  Interesting suggestion, but again I have to consider when
>> would this behaviour actually occur?
>> Assume that the name was blank and you selected an instrument.  This would
>> now mean the track name is showing instrument 1.  Assume now that you 
>> decide
>>
>> that instrument 1 is not what you
>> wanted, so now you choose instrument 2.  The track name is no longer 
>> blank,
>> so I can't automatically overwrite the content any more, so what should
>> happen in this case?
>>
>> There's also the question of what to do when you load a song: should this
>> auto track naming behaviour also apply here?  I reckon that could
>> potentially lead to undesired results.
>>
>> I hope this helps but if I've missed something, please let me know.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Matzura" <[email protected]>
>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: QWS List bank an program numbers
>>
>>
>> OK, a couple things, some of which may be hardware dependent.
>>
>> 1.  What would be most excellent to have is the selected instrument
>> name automatically copied into the track name if the track name is
>> blank. If that's not acceptable to folks, then please oh please put
>> the chosen instrument name on the screen along with the track name,
>> and maybe some more information, so we don't always have to go into
>> track properties to find out what's what, like what channel we're on,
>> etc. The absolute best of all possible worlds, and this one would
>> seriously severely make me pay for it, is for the track listing to be
>> more like a spreadsheet where certain parameters could be changed
>> simply by pressing up- and down-arrow on them, like program change,
>> channel number, bank number, patch, etc. Make them edit/spin fields so
>> we can either arrow or type in directly if we know what values to type
>> in. The only problem with the typing-in of the fields would be, how
>> would the program know when we're done typing and evaluate and execute
>> what we've typed? Maybe you press ENTER when done typing? Maybe that's
>> not such a good idea after all, the typing part, but the spin part
>> surely would be. The only field on the track listing which could
>> actually move you around from track to track would be the track
>> number, and there should be a hot key (shortcut key) to get to that
>> column from whatever column you might be on, like Alt-Home or
>> something similar.
>>
>> 2. When program changes are made, either through the spin fields or
>> the track properties, display the instrument name on the track
>> *PLEASE*.
>>
>> 3. When MIDI program changes are received, index them against the
>> loaded instrument definition and display accordingly. The XP-80 seems
>> real good at sending program changes for next and previous voice, but
>> unless I'm doing something wrong with the XR, which I probably am,
>> turning the front-panel click-knob does not move me to the
>> next/previous patch. In fact, I have no idea what it exactly does when
>> I turn that knob! All I know is, it puts me in some n-space somewhere,
>> selecting performances or patches, I just don't know what it's doing,
>> and no MIDI data comes back down the line.
>>
>> 4. Would you consider changing the hotkey for new track? CTRL+INS
>> doesn't get passed by screenreaders much.
>>
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