Hi James
Thanks for the input.
Question: when I go to track properties (alt-enter), and there
change the volume, or for that matter the panning on a track,
does QWS insert a cc7 or cc10 event?
Thanks
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "JAMES BOWDEN" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
Hi folks,
Just a couple of points to add to this discussion which I hope are
helpful:
1. There is an important difference between a Progression of MIDI
controllers and what the Velocity Crescendo tool does:
* Progression will insert new MIDI events, for example Volume controllers;
* The Velocity Crescendo tool will adjust the Velocities of existing
notes.
So, if you had a single sustained note and try and use the Velocity
Crescendo tool, chances are that nothing will happen because there's
only 1 note.
2. MIDI Controllers Volume and Expression:
As far as I am aware, CC#7 (Volume) and CC#11 (Expression) normally
effectively have the same effect of changing the volume. If your
synth supports both of these controllers, then, as I understand it,
you can use CC#7 (Volume) to set the overall volume of each track, a
bit like the faders on a mixer desk.
Then, if you want to adjust the volume (expression) within a track,
use CC#11 (Expression). This means that you can still use CC#7 to
adjust the overall mix and all the dynamics you put in with CC#11
don't need any adjustment.
If I can use an analogy:
CC#11 is the musician's volume control on stage;
CC#7 is the sound tech's volume on the mixer console at the back.
Final tip: if you plan to use Expression within a track, make sure you
also set the initial value at the start of the track. This has to be
done manually by adding an event, use either the Event List or
Controller Editor).
I hope this helps.
With best regards,
James.
On 24/07/2012, David (Mr Music) <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi guys
I have found my problem.
The area I marked started after the start of the note, and it's
one long note running over several bars, so the velocity/crescendo tool
had
no effect.
I had to use the progression tool with controller 7 and play around
with start and end volumes.
After that I muted these tracks, put on apply to all tracks and
then used the velocity/crescendo tool on the rest of the tracks.
Thanks so much for your help!!!!
I want to finish the dynamics on this piece, so I may run into another
challenge
or two - this was the first hitch, but hopefully the last!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
I haven't used the marker tools yet. What I'd do in that case is pick one
of
the tracks not muted, then go to the start where you want your volume
change
to start, and then hold down the shift key to select the number of
measures
or other such data (change this in the zoom function in the view menu)
and
with that selected, run the tool and see if that does it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
David (Mr Music)
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:47 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
Hi Nicole
Thanks for responding so promptly. I'm doing something wrong, it does
not
work!!! here is what I did!
All tracks are at different volumes, so I need to use the percentage,
which
means I am using the volume/crescendo tool!
I go to tools and check apply to all tracks.
I go to go to and clear all markers.
I go to the first beat (bar) of the region.
I set a left marker with shift-l.
I go to the last beat (bar) of my region.
I set the right marker shift-r.
Now I go to the start of my region by pressing l (go to marker).
I enter on select marked in the edit submenu.
I go to more tools in the tools menu.
I enter on velocity/cresendo.
I type a value of 70 (to create a decrescendo effect), and press OK.
When I play back nothing has changed.
I then go and look in events, expecting a series of events to be present
on
the track, like you'll find for the tempo progression, but there are no
events inserted to change the volume.
What am I doing wrong?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
Let's see if I can make some sense of this for you.
QWS does some slightly strange things with controllers and other
messages,
including note on messages. It uses its last value on a track and
doesn't
chase any values from earlier like most other sequencers do. So it is
something of a chaotic thing to determine where it will all fit in and
what
results you'll get.
This may or may not work, as this control works in most situations but
not
some select others. Before performing your volume change, click on the
entry
in the tools menu near the bottom that says, "Apply to all tracks."
This
may
give you the crescendo/decrescendo you want on all tracks.
Either tool will do the job, depending on how you think about it. Some
folks
are more comfortable with editing the volume or expression controls,
while
others are more comfortable with the crescendo percentage change. You
should
be able to calculate the percentage you want depending on your initial
volume you set for the track in the properties, and if you have
differing
starting volumes then I'd suggest that you use the percentage change
tool
to
avoid unpleasant things.
One more thing -- the apply to all tracks function ignores muted
tracks.
Use
this to your advantage.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
David (Mr Music)
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:51 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
Hi friends
Help please.
I'm doing my first piece using QWS.
To create crescendo/decrescendo effects in a piece with 16 tracks,
which
tool should I use?
i've looked at the progression tool, controller 7, but it takes a
single
chanel input and the specific start and end volumes.
There is no percentage plus or minus with this.
Then there is the velocity/crescendo tool, which takes a percentage,
but
again, must I go to every track individually?
And after, say, the decresendo, must I then go and reset the volumes on
all
chanels, or does the program automatically revert each chanel's volume
back
to what it was before the decrescendo started, or does each chanel
continue
on the volume at which it stopped after the decrescendo:?
Hoping for some speedy help!
David
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