That could be nice, but being able to set which ones would also be nice.
Perhaps  defaults that could be changed?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
JAMES BOWDEN
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:08 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List Question on volume manipulation

Hi,

Yes, the settings in the Track Properties dialog do basically insert
CC#7 and CC#10.

Regarding adding some more settings to this dialog, someone suggested having
an "Advanced" button in the box which could bring up some more less-often
used controllers.  What do you reckon?

Hope this helps.

James.

On 25/07/2012, Nicole Massey <[email protected]> wrote:
> You know, it might be handy to have a couple more user defined fields 
> in the properties for controllers. Say a drop down list of controller 
> numbers, with the ones already there not in the list to minimize 
> problems. This would be handy for things like switching on Portamento 
> and also setting the time, two different controllers, or setting 
> starting expression.
> Just a thought.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of JAMES BOWDEN
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45 AM
> To: QWS list
> Subject: Re: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Just a couple of points to add to this discussion which I hope are
helpful:
>
> 1. There is an important difference between a Progression of MIDI 
> controllers and what the Velocity Crescendo tool does:
>
> * Progression will insert new MIDI events, for example Volume 
> controllers;
>
> * The Velocity Crescendo tool will adjust the Velocities of existing
notes.
>
> So, if you had a single sustained note and try and use the Velocity 
> Crescendo tool, chances are that nothing will happen because there's 
> only 1 note.
>
>
> 2.  MIDI Controllers Volume and Expression:
> As far as I am aware, CC#7 (Volume) and CC#11 (Expression) normally 
> effectively have the same effect of changing the volume.  If your 
> synth supports both of these controllers, then, as I understand it, 
> you can use
> CC#7 (Volume) to set the overall volume of each track, a bit like the 
> faders on a mixer desk.
>
> Then, if you want to adjust the volume (expression) within a track, 
> use
> CC#11 (Expression).  This means that you can still use CC#7 to adjust 
> the overall mix and all the dynamics you put in with CC#11 don't need 
> any adjustment.
>
> If I can use an analogy:
>
> CC#11 is the musician's volume control on stage;
> CC#7 is the sound tech's volume on the mixer console at the back.
>
>
> Final tip: if you plan to use Expression within a track, make sure you 
> also set the initial value at the start of the track.  This has to be 
> done manually by adding an event, use either the Event List or 
> Controller Editor).
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> With best regards,
>
> James.
>
>
> On 24/07/2012, David (Mr Music) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I have found my problem.
>>
>> The area I marked started after the start of the note, and it's one 
>> long note running over several bars, so the velocity/crescendo tool 
>> had no effect.
>>
>> I had to use the progression tool with controller 7 and play around 
>> with start and end volumes.
>>
>> After that I muted these tracks, put on apply to all tracks and then 
>> used the velocity/crescendo tool on the rest of the tracks.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help!!!!
>>
>> I want to finish the dynamics on this piece, so I may run into 
>> another challenge or two - this was the first hitch, but hopefully the
last!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:58 PM
>> Subject: RE: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
>>
>>
>>>I haven't used the marker tools yet. What I'd do in that case is pick 
>>>one of  the tracks not muted, then go to the start where you want 
>>>your volume  change  to start, and then hold down the shift key to 
>>>select the number of  measures  or other such data (change this in 
>>>the zoom function in the view menu)  and  with that selected, run the 
>>>tool and see if that does it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of David (Mr Music)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:47 PM
>>> To: QWS list
>>> Subject: Re: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
>>>
>>> Hi Nicole
>>>
>>> Thanks for responding so promptly. I'm doing something wrong, it 
>>> does not work!!! here is what I did!
>>>
>>> All tracks are at different volumes, so I need to use the 
>>> percentage, which means I am using the volume/crescendo tool!
>>>
>>> I go to tools and check apply to all tracks.
>>> I go to go to and clear all markers.
>>> I go to the first beat (bar) of the region.
>>> I set a left marker with shift-l.
>>> I go to the last beat (bar) of my region.
>>> I set the right marker shift-r.
>>>
>>> Now I go to the start of my region by pressing l (go to marker).
>>> I enter on select marked in the edit submenu.
>>> I go to more tools in the tools menu.
>>> I enter on velocity/cresendo.
>>> I type a value of 70 (to create a decrescendo effect), and press OK.
>>>
>>> When I play back nothing has changed.
>>>
>>> I then go and look in events, expecting a series of events to be 
>>> present on the track, like you'll find for the tempo progression, 
>>> but there are no events inserted to change the volume.
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:24 PM
>>> Subject: RE: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Let's see if I can make some sense of this for you.
>>>> QWS does some slightly strange things with controllers and other 
>>>> messages, including note on messages. It uses its last value on a 
>>>> track and doesn't chase any values from earlier like most other 
>>>> sequencers do. So it is something of a chaotic thing to determine 
>>>> where it will all fit in and what results you'll get.
>>>> This may or may not work, as this control works in most situations 
>>>> but not some select others. Before performing your volume change, 
>>>> click on the entry in the tools menu near the bottom that says, 
>>>> "Apply to all tracks." This may give you the crescendo/decrescendo 
>>>> you want on all tracks.
>>>> Either tool will do the job, depending on how you think about it.
>>>> Some folks are more comfortable with editing the volume or 
>>>> expression controls, while others are more comfortable with the 
>>>> crescendo percentage change. You should be able to calculate the 
>>>> percentage you want depending on your initial volume you set for 
>>>> the track in the properties, and if you have differing starting 
>>>> volumes then I'd suggest that you use the percentage change tool to 
>>>> avoid unpleasant things.
>>>> One more thing -- the apply to all tracks function ignores muted 
>>>> tracks.
>>>> Use
>>>> this to your advantage.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of David (Mr Music)
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:51 PM
>>>> To: QWS list
>>>> Subject: QWS List Question on volume manipulation
>>>>
>>>> Hi friends
>>>>
>>>> Help please.
>>>>
>>>> I'm doing my first piece using QWS.
>>>>
>>>> To create crescendo/decrescendo effects in a piece with 16 tracks, 
>>>> which tool should I use?
>>>>
>>>> i've looked at the progression tool, controller 7, but it takes a 
>>>> single chanel input and the specific start and end volumes.
>>>> There is no percentage plus or minus with this.
>>>>
>>>> Then there is the velocity/crescendo tool, which takes a 
>>>> percentage, but again, must I go to every track individually?
>>>>
>>>> And after, say, the decresendo, must I then go and reset the 
>>>> volumes on all chanels, or does the program automatically revert 
>>>> each chanel's volume back to what it was before the decrescendo 
>>>> started, or does each chanel continue on the volume at which it 
>>>> stopped after the decrescendo:?
>>>>
>>>> Hoping for some speedy help!
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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