Rex,
You're just paranoid and I'm in no way answerable to you. Your constant name
calling presupposes your own naivete.
The survey has a disclaimer and those who wish to respond can do so at their
own discretion.
Judging by the nature (and number) of respondents, there seem to be a lot of
highly qualified people who have no qualms about sharing information
regarding their R usage patterns.
You can believe what you want and can continue to spin your imaginative
tales of "industrial espionage" while assuming a position of apparent
authority on survey design, Oscar gowns and data security AND my apparent
ulterior and "outrageous" motives.
You also seem to be an ignorant and misinformed person. Google forms, using
which the survey was created DOES NOT log IP addresses of the respondents.
And exactly which question in the survey would contribute to endangering the
professional or personal safety and security of people responding to the
survey. The information sought is freely available on LinkedIn. I merely
want to get more descriptive information directly from R users.
If you haven't looked at the Survey questions, then refrain from making
misconstrued remarks.
I apologize to the other users of this list for prolonging this frivolous
debate here. This will be my last response on the list regarding this topic.
If anyone has an issue pertaining to the Survey, its outcome and my motives,
they can get in touch with me independently and off the list. All forms of
constructive comments are also welcome.
For those interested in sharing their R usage information please visit
goo.gl/jw1ig
- H
On 04-Mar-2011 10:34 PM,<rex.dw...@syngenta.com> wrote:
You still don't say what organization you are associated with. Your domain
name and e-mail address give no hint. How do we know that "Harsh Singhal" is
even a real person? An e-mail address at a university (for example) would go
a long way to establish that. Gmail doesn't cut it for me.
The preponderance of evidence is that you're just a naïve person who would
give your own information to anyone who asked. On the other hand, it's
possible that you are conducting industrial espionage by recording IP
addresses and associating "use cases" with companies. In my opinion, the
onus is on you to show your bona fides, and you haven't done it.
That's all I have to say...
From: Harsh [mailto:singhal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:19 AM
To: bill.venab...@csiro.au
Cc: Dwyer Rex USRE; r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] R usage survey
The R usage survey goo.gl/jw1ig<http://goo.gl/jw1ig> has been updated with
the following changes:
Addition of -
Disclaimer :
This data will not be used for any commercial purposes
Do not include any personally identifiable information
Contact: Harsh Singhal (singhalblr AT gmail DOT com) for any queries
Removal of -
Name field
My primary purpose in conducting this survey is -
- Find multiple use cases for various R packages
- Understand the nature of work when R is being used in Academia /
Commercial settings
- The kind of technologies that are being used in conjunction with R
(popularity of usage of Python with R, and what purpose does using Python
solve)
The outcome of this analysis will be published on my blog (in the process
of being created).
There is absolutely no commercial purpose behind collecting this
information and as earlier stated, this information will not be shared with
personally identifiable information.
Thank you once again Mr. Dwyer and Mr. Venables for raising very import
questions.
I thank the R users who have already filled in the survey goo.gl/jw1ig<
http://goo.gl/jw1ig> and request more to do so.
Regards,
Harsh Singhal
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:41 AM,<bill.venab...@csiro.au> wrote:
No. That's not answering the question. ALL surveys are for collecting
information.
The substantive issue is what purpose do you have in seeking this
information in the first place and what are you going to do with it when you
get it?
Do you have some commercial purpose in mind? If so, what is it?
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From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org>
[mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org>]
On Behalf Of Harsh
Sent: Friday, 4 March 2011 1:13 AM
To: rex.dw...@syngenta.com<mailto:rex.dw...@syngenta.com>
Cc: r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [R] R usage survey
Hi Rex and useRs,
The purpose of the survey has been mentioned on the survey link
goo.gl/jw1ig<http://goo.gl/jw1ig>
but I will also reproduce it here.
- Geographical distribution of R users
- Application areas where R is being used
- Supporting technology being used along with R
- Academic background distribution of R users
The potential personally identifiable information such as name and
employer
name are optional fields. Actually all the fields in the survey are
optional.
Some of the analysis output(s) could be along the lines of :-
- Usage statistics of various R packages
- Distribution of R users across countries/cities
- Mapping various applications to packages
- Text Mining of the responses to create informative word clouds
Personally, I am excited about the kind of data I will receive through
this
survey and the various insights that could be derived. As already
mentioned,
the results will be shared with the community.
Thank you Rex for raising an important point. It is indeed necessary for
me
to personally assure the user community that the results will be shared in
a
manner that will not contain any personally identifiable information.
Those who wish to gain access to the raw data will be provided with all
the
fields but not the name and employer name fields.
Just out of curiosity : It is possible to get name, employer name,
location,
usage information and academic background details when searching for R
users
on LinkedIn and the many R related groups there.
Does this also provide potential opportunities for misuse and "outrageous"
analyses, since almost anyone can get onto LinkedIn and access user
profiles
?
Thank you for your interest and support.
Regards,
Harsh
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:02 PM,<rex.dw...@syngenta.com<mailto:
rex.dw...@syngenta.com>> wrote:
Harsh, "Suitably analyzed" for whose purposes? One man's "suitable" is
another's "outrageous". That's why people want to see the gowns at the
Oscars. Under what auspices are you conducting this survey? What do you
intend to do with it? You don't give any assurance that the results you
post won't have personally identifiable information. I don't get the
impression that you know much about survey design.
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From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org>
[mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org>]
On Behalf Of Harsh
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:53 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org<mailto:r-help@r-project.org>
Subject: [R] R usage survey
Hi R users,
I request members of the R community to consider filling a short survey
regarding the use of R.
The survey can be found at http://goo.gl/jw1ig
Please accept my apologies for posting here for a non-technical reason.
The data collected will be suitably analyzed and I'll post a link to the
results in the coming weeks.
Thank you all for your interest and for sharing your R usage information.
Regards,
Harsh Singhal
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