When I follow the link at the bottom of one of these messages, click on
members, I see an "add members" button and clicking on it gives me a place
to add email addresses. I didn't actually add email addresses to the list
and try to add them, and I might have already had special privileges on
this list so that might not have been the most useful test.

Robby


On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alright, thanks to all of you for the quick replies. As of this writing,
> the list has been reconfigured to create an explicit perimeter between the
> non-members and members. The public can no longer let themselves in.
>
> Not totally out of the woods yet.
>
>    1. Someone please confirm if you can invite others using Members page
>    -> "Add Member". If not, then please follow up with me.
>    2. This model can be compromised by someone going rogue and inviting a
>    bunch of spammers. I'm expecting that our communal trust is high enough to
>    make this unlikely.
>
> Considering the risk profile seems less scary, disregard request to delete
> my emails. :)
> On 12/18/21 3:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>
>
> +2! And many thanks. (I was personally spared this spam until very
> recently. No clue why)
>
> — Matthias
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robby Findler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> +1! Thank you.
>
> Robby
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way
>> to improve the situation!
>>
>> At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +0000, Sage Gerard wrote:
>> > Core team,
>> >
>> > Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so, even
>> > just today. I understand I need quorum for larger decisions. This is why
>> > I have not yet reconfigured the list to permanently stop the spammer.
>> > After researching the problem further, I need your urgent attention.
>> >
>> > I found that the spam messages sometimes link to other Google group
>> > posts affected by the spammer. A recent trail leads to a
>> > comp.lang.python Google message in 2017. I suspect that email addresses
>> > are scraped in unmoderated lists that freely hand out membership. After
>> > checking the list settings, I found that this is one of those lists. I
>> > hypothesize that our email addresses are being scraped and
>> > cross-referenced for use in other unmoderated lists.
>> >
>> > It's one thing to flatly complain about a spammer on this list, and
>> > another to willingly maintain a transmission vector. We need to stop
>> > automatically handing out group membership with our current settings. We
>> > can have ________ issue list memberships. I need you all to fill in the
>> > blank with "moderators" or "members." I'll translate the settings
>> > accordingly.
>> >
>> > Given the holidays, I respect your time. Please reciprocate with respect
>> > for the urgency this problem creates. I will revoke my own mailing list
>> > privileges and membership in three weeks, on January 8th, 2022. I will
>> > leave the settings however they read at the time to prevent
>> > interruption, and request that own messages then be deleted to limit the
>> > role my email address plays for the spammer.
>> >
>> > I am not volunteering to moderate membership applications, and I am not
>> > commenting on how to verify the impact of possible email leaks. Between
>> > the Discourse move and (majority?) perspective towards email, I'm not
>> > sure how I would be useful doing either. If my opinion holds weight, I'd
>> > advise the answer be "members" so that any available moderators can
>> > focus on rule breakers while the community grows at a self-directed
>> speed.
>> >
>> > Let me know, and thank you.
>> >
>> >
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