Hi Jon! > I've begun putting together documentation for the current stable release - > I'm probably over half way with that. I think getting that done, then > discussing it here will provide a good base for working on the documentation > for 2.0. I had the same thought about videos, they can be very useful for > quickly showing basic functionality, or explaining more complex > functionality in small sections.
I complely agree! > In terms of usability, I gave some thoughts in a previous email, such as > left clicking by default setting the white balance - this is very > unintuitive - it should certainly drag the image when zoomed, and probably > have no effect when viewing the whole image. Couldn't holding W down while > clicking set the white balance? Our initial idea is to have work-state buttons, that defines the task you are currently working on. Click to set WB is of course one of these states, but so are crop, rotate, pan, etc. A simple button press to change between them and a nice icon should hopefully make it a bit more intutive. (Rather badly titled) http://bugzilla.rawstudio.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287 > Since then I've built and had a play with the current SVN. I like the > improved functionality, but what's going on with the super-sensitivity of > the contrast slider? I know there are bug reports about it, and suggestions > of manual text input boxes - whatever the solution, it obviously has to be > possible to fine-tune. All color-adjustments are "work-in-progress", and are due to be fine-tuned before 2.0. I completely agree on contrast, and personally I cannot see a good reason for hue to be more than +-15 degrees. I would also personally like contrast to be divided into shadow/highlight contrast, since it allows far more flexibiliy. But all this is relying on the biggest missing thing before 2.0, color management. As you might have noticed, Anders has done a great deal of work to support DCP-profiles. > I'm not a usability expert, so what I've said above isn't gospel, but I do > know a certain amount about usability. On the whole, in terms of the rapid > and smooth workflow, prioritising images etc, Rawstudio beats most > commercial software when it comes to sorting a raw shoot for processing - > but there are these few areas (mentioned above) which let it down. I think that will warm the hearts of Anders&Anders. This was what they set out to do a few years ago, and with color management, I personally think it is very useful, and as a Windows user I pray for a port every day. :) > Clearly there's no point writing the 2.0 documentation until things are > finalised - which is why I started with the 1.2. I'm busy for the next > couple of weeks, so probably wont have it finished until after then (as I > had hoped to). Then we can discuss what I've done and how we can apply that > to 2.0. Sounds like a good plan! > > Cheers > > Jon > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Klaus Post <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Sounds great! >> >> I've been pondering on doing a documentation efford on the >> sharpening/denoiser part at least, since it is pretty much in the >> state it should be for the 2.0 release, IMO at least. >> >> My own thoughts were along small video tutorials, but it cannot go >> without written documentation, since it allows far more detail. >> >> We have talked about some more generic UI improvements, which I feel >> should be implemented for 2.0. The main issue is to make the already >> available features more visible. We are mostly talking about exposing >> the Rightclick-menu features to buttons, so they are immediately >> visible and available to the user. >> This way, hopefully you shouldn't have to use too much space on >> explaining basic functions. >> >> Other than that, there are also a bunch of Lensfun options that has to >> be displayed, and a camera settings/profile page that has to be built. >> >> >> >> Regards, Klaus Post >> >> http://www.klauspost.com >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Jonathan Musther <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hi Martin, >> > Is the functionality you describe in the current development release, as >> > there aren't any RGB sliders in the 1.2 release? >> > >> > Hi Michael, >> > I would be very happy to collaborate on documentation via a wiki (or >> > some >> > other means). >> > There are clearly several different ways to approach this, but I think >> > perhaps the most important thing is that we begin actually doing it, >> > rather >> > than getting too bogged down in the technicalities. A wiki is perfectly >> > acceptable, but should be coordinated with whoever is in charge of the >> > rawstudio website, such that it can be fairly seamless and easily >> > accessible >> > for users. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Jon >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Martin Christensen >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Musther <[email protected]> writes: >> >> >> >> Jonathan> My name is Jon, and I'm here to volunteer to write some >> >> Jonathan> documentation. >> >> >> >> Wonderful! Rawstudio could use it. >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> Jonathan> - Reduce to B&W >> >> Jonathan> It would be great to be able to reduce to black and white, >> >> and >> >> Jonathan> vary the RGB being used to do so. This would allow >> >> Jonathan> photographers to, for example, produce a B&W image dominated >> >> Jonathan> by the red channel This is the equivalent of using lens >> >> Jonathan> filters, or DSLR lens filter effects. >> >> >> >> This is already an option almost exactly as you describe it. Just set >> >> the saturation slider to 0 and adjust the RGB sliders to your heart's >> >> content. >> >> >> >> >> >> Martin >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rawstudio-dev mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://rawstudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rawstudio-dev >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rawstudio-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://rawstudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rawstudio-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Rawstudio-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://rawstudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rawstudio-dev > > _______________________________________________ Rawstudio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://rawstudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rawstudio-dev
