> Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what > Waterford is willing to accept.
Waterford could be driving this. From their site it appears the only frame offered with DT braze ons is the (actually rather attractive) Hetchins Swallow Tribute touring bike. None of the Waterford road racing bikes have DT braze ons. GP's write up said he put more of the design specs in Waterford's hands because he was trying to meet a specific weight total. Maybe Waterford believes accommodating DT braze ons adds too much weight. > Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an > upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like > Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as > it was black). This has always been Riv's policy on paint though. In this instance, I do not mind, as the stock Roadeo scheme is close to the Trek 959, the bike I dreamed about owning during my High School days. On Aug 28, 2:07 pm, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply > reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who > was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required > "system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its braze- > on's are only really useful with a shift integrated (e.g. Shimano) > system. > > I also find it perplexing that Rivendell, apparently, will not > accommodate a customer request to have downtube shifter bosses on the > frame. This is not a cheap bicycle, $2,000 is a good chunk of > change. Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what > Waterford is willing to accept. > > Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an > upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like > Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as > it was black). > > Jim > > On Aug 28, 11:06 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? > > > Indeed there are. > > > However, I have two lovely NOS sets of Simplex braze on dt levers with > > the sunburst (the older, harder to get in good NOS condition Simplex > > levers), an NOS Simplex white plastic braze on set and two beautiful > > NOS Campy Record braze on lever sets. > > > I readily admit we are going into persnickity parts collector > > territory here, but I really would like to have a bike where I could > > rotate use of some of those lovely old parts > > > Maybe if I had some swell clamp on sets I would feel differently. > > Real nice NOS clamp on shifters are far and few between, however. I > > have been actively collecting for six years now and can only remember > > one or two being offered for sale. > > > Besides, it would look kind of odd to have such a lovely frame with > > unused cable routers above a clamp on shifter. > > On Aug 28, 12:33 pm, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? IIRC, many early steel > > > frames had cable guides and bottle holders attached by wrap around bands, > > > not braze ons, so this would not be that unusual. > > > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, JoelMatthews<joelmatth...@mac.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques Anquetil and > > > >> Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons.- Hide > > > >> quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---