Jim-

Seems like a small thing to get so offended by.  However, I was in your
shoes when I picked up my '97 Rivendell Road.  Riv Catalog 3 (1997) states
that the Riv Road has clearance for 700x35c tires, but mine barely clears a
700x28c tire, with about 1 mm to spare under the brake bridge and fork
crown.

I was kinda disappointed to miss out on all this "fluffy-yet-fast wide
tires" thing that Riv folks were so excited about.

But, the intervening years since my Riv's creation have produced some
alternative solutions.  650b wheels, tires, and long-reach sidepulls are
now easily available.  I converted my Riv Road to 650b, and now it fits a
38mm wide tire and full fenders.  It has a great, comfy ride that feels
wonderful, yet it's not appreciably slower than with larger diameter
700x28c.

I'm not sure if Riv's specifications were slightly optimistic, if it's the
difference in tires since then, or what.  It was frustrating to find out my
Riv is a bit of a "lemon", but it's made some excellent lemonade!

And it's really made me want an Atlantis or Hunq for fat 700c tire
touring...

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Cyclofiend Jim
<cyclofi...@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Jim -
>
> I have to say that I'm not really following your point. Certainly, it's
> got to be frustrating to purchase something that doesn't do what you hoped
> it would.  But, I'm not sure how you get from a 15 year old archived web
> page to losing trust in Rivendell.  Second to that, tire profiles have
> changed a bit in the ensuing time frame.  More round now, more larger sizes
> now.  And every rim makes a tire sit a bit differently.
>
> With a couple of google stabs, I found several ref's to folks selling
> Heron roads (not sure on the model years), describing tire clearances that
> ran from 28 to 38.  Enough that it would have caused concern enough to
> confirm with the seller.
>
> Heron was spun off from Rivendell long ago.  Different models, different
> owner, a different company.
>
> Sorry to hear you had a bad outcome, but I don't think it's particularly
> appropriate to draw a far-reaching conclusion about trust from those data
> points.
>
> - Jim
>
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