The 105 hubs on my Ram needed service at about 7,500 miles.

On Monday, May 5, 2014, Hugh Flynn <hugfly...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Starting a new thread with this as I'm heading off on a slightly tangental
> path:
>
> How frequently do folks overhaul their cup/cone hubs?
>
> I have too many bikes to make this a yearly task, so I just check my hubs
> periodically and replace bearings/cones/grease if something starts to feel
> gritty or otherwise unpleasant. I have some wheels that haven't required
> attention in 10 years (curiously, they were all built with the Suntour XC
> front hubs Riv had on sale about 10 years ago…). Others, like those my
> winter bike, require yearly maintenance after the snow/salt bath that is
> New England winter cycling.
>
> Freehub lubrication is something I haven't been able to get right yet
> though. Are the freehub bodies that are sold on non-shimano hubs easier to
> service than shimano freehub bodies?
>
> I have an Ultegra freehub that has seen better much better days, but I
> have not been able to figure out a good way to get grease/oil into the
> thing. Perhaps it's time to consider an oil bath like we used to do with
> freewheels.
>
> Hugh "dry ride" Flynn
> Newburyport, MA
>
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
> On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:05:58 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> the law of diminishing returns does set in at some point:
>>
>> "The law of diminishing returns is a classic economic concept that states
>> that as more investment in an area is made, overall return on that
>> investment increases at a declining rate, assuming that all variables
>> remain fixed. To continue to make an investment after a certain point
>> (which varies from context to context) is to receive a decreasing return on
>> that input."
>>
>> You might consider moving up a notch, but not all the way to bling. Maybe
>> cartridge bearings and lower weight would be fun to play with, and...
>>
>
> I don't know, for the biggest "bang for the buck," it is hard to beat
> Shimano. Yes, they have loose ball bearings that require periodic
> maintenance and Shimano hubs are not the lightest. But for durability and
> quietness, nothing beats them.  I usually get Dura Ace or Ultegra hubs, but
> that is because I *think* their cups and cones and better polished and
> should last longer. Further, if you buy from one of the UK retailers,
> DA/ultegra hubs are substantially cheaper than most of the boutiques like
> King,Phi, White, DT, etc. Good Luck!
>
>>
>> The bikehubstore.com seems to have a fine reputation for selling good
>> stuff and providing good service. All that said, if you don't care about
>> weight and mostly about utility, then I think you won't experience any
>> level of disappointment with nearly anything from Shimano....and they are
>> famous for not making that aggravating pawl click noise found in even the
>> most expensive.
>>
>> http://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/144.htm
>>
>
>>
>> On Monday, May 5, 2014 8:14:15 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>>> Pricing out parts for my build, the cost difference in hubs between the
>>> bling hubs and say Shimano hubs are pretty noticable.  A Chris King, Phil
>>> Wood, et. al, are quite expensive, $350ish in the case of the Chris King,
>>> $400+ in the case of the Phil.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I found Tiagra 4600 rear hubs for as little as $24.45
>>> online, and 105 5700 rear hubs for $43.45.  Now we all know that Shimano
>>> hubs are loose ball bearing hubs, but in practice what is the functional
>>> deficiency if the bearing preload is properly adjusted?  Some people seem
>>> to think the 105 hub is better sealed than the Tiagra and if so would be
>>> worth $19 to me.  But if not...?  Rivendell sells 105 5500 hubs on their
>>> site, so they must not be that bad.
>>>
>>> To give some more background, I have a Chris King hub on a frame I was
>>> planning on selling.  The plan was to re-use the CK hub on my new build.
>>>  Different wheel size, so I would need to start over with new rims and
>>> spokes either way.  But if I could sell the CK for $200 or more, and
>>> replace it with say a 105 or even a Deore hub, that would help me get my
>>> build together faster.  The new frame is spaced 132.5 so can take 130 or
>>> 135.
>>>
>>> I also don't love the fact that the CK hub needs to be taken apart and
>>> re-lubed yearly.  I had an issue before with the lube drying out and
>>> causing the hub to be sticky on transition from pedaling to coasting when
>>> my service interval was too long.  That being said, the polished silver CK
>>> is a bit more aesthetically pleasing than the dull silver Shimano hubs.
>>>
>>> My main criteria is that the hub is sealed well against water intrusion
>>> and rolls down the road easily.  Low maintenance is a plus.  A difference
>>> in weight of 100 grams is not meaningful to me.  Bling is nice, but my
>>> priority is function over form.  It does need to be silver, of course.
>>>
>>> Replacing the CK with a mid-priced cartridge bearing hub might be
>>> another option.  The Velo Orange hubs look pretty nice.  I'm guessing they
>>> would probably would require less maintenance than the CK hubs and if the
>>> cartridge bearings are of good quality they would probably be well sealed.
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down!
>>>
>>
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