Oh, I didn't realize the B&M was a good, functional little bottle dynamo. 
It makes sense now that the light would be underpowered, since the 
Velogical puts out 1.5W and the headlight takes 2.3. I think I may start 
with just using something like a Cygolite Trion 1300 on the Jones and then 
if I want dynamo power, I could run an E-Werk as the battery charger for 
that. I'd like to have a bonafide daytime running light, but it seems like 
the best strategy with a bottle dynamo would be to just go for recharging a 
battery pack. $60 as opposed to $160 is certainly attractive though!

On Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:08:42 AM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
wrote:
>
> I have seen LED lights sec'd as low as 1 W, and it may be that the new 
> StVZO standard anticipates these.  Shimano, FWIW, also manufactures 
> dynohubs that put out power in the 1.5W range.  I did have the impression 
> that the Edelux (I used an Edelux and Pixeo as a test bed) was slightly 
> underpowered by the Velogical.
>
> I don't know whether you'd need a brake track to run this; the O-ring is 
> pretty grippy.  The nice thing about the brake track is that if it get 
> super wet, you can clear it with a touch of the brakes.  Again, just in 
> case it needs to be repeated, this is designed to run on the RIM, not the 
> TIRE.  But the B&M dynamo can also run on the rim.
>
> It's a very light, elegant solution.  But it's very costly, and I think 
> that the B&M dynamo (for example) would likely do a fine job in its place.
>
> As for powering something like a USB charger in addition to a headlight, 
> it can do that.  I didn't test it for great periods of time, but my phone 
> (a Lumia) did show that it was charging.
>
> If anyone has any questions they want addressed on the Velogical, I'll try 
> to answer them from my experience.
>
> On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>>
>> I was talking with Jeff Jones about lighting options with his 29+ bikes 
>> (which can't run a disk SON hub because of 142mm spacing) and he said that 
>> one of his customers had good results with this fancy model: 
>> http://www.velogical-engineering.com/rim-dynamo-en
>>
>> I'm considering it for the 29+ I want to build, I could power a headlight 
>> alone up front and also a B&M E-werk for charging batteries. Seems like a 
>> good solution to the one drawback of the 29+ model (no dynohub). I'm also 
>> wondering if some battery-powered lights (Cygolite, Light & Motion) have 
>> advanced to the point of being tolerable to use now in terms of 
>> reliability. 
>>
>

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