So if yo had to pick one bottle dynamo, would it be the Velogical?

The (seemingly) lower power output is a little offputting to me, but I 
really think I will want to use it as a battery recharger rather than on a 
constant dynamo. It certainly has a nicer form factor than the B&M!

On Thursday, January 1, 2015 2:02:17 PM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
wrote:
>
> Here's my take on the B&M (Dymotec) unit:
>
>
> http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/the-shocking-truth-part-5-bottle-generators/
>
> If you want to read the whole series (heh) start here:
>
> http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/the-shocking-truth/
>
>
> On Thursday, January 1, 2015 1:57:50 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I didn't realize the B&M was a good, functional little bottle dynamo. 
>> It makes sense now that the light would be underpowered, since the 
>> Velogical puts out 1.5W and the headlight takes 2.3. I think I may start 
>> with just using something like a Cygolite Trion 1300 on the Jones and then 
>> if I want dynamo power, I could run an E-Werk as the battery charger for 
>> that. I'd like to have a bonafide daytime running light, but it seems like 
>> the best strategy with a bottle dynamo would be to just go for recharging a 
>> battery pack. $60 as opposed to $160 is certainly attractive though!
>>
>> On Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:08:42 AM UTC-8, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have seen LED lights sec'd as low as 1 W, and it may be that the new 
>>> StVZO standard anticipates these.  Shimano, FWIW, also manufactures 
>>> dynohubs that put out power in the 1.5W range.  I did have the impression 
>>> that the Edelux (I used an Edelux and Pixeo as a test bed) was slightly 
>>> underpowered by the Velogical.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether you'd need a brake track to run this; the O-ring is 
>>> pretty grippy.  The nice thing about the brake track is that if it get 
>>> super wet, you can clear it with a touch of the brakes.  Again, just in 
>>> case it needs to be repeated, this is designed to run on the RIM, not the 
>>> TIRE.  But the B&M dynamo can also run on the rim.
>>>
>>> It's a very light, elegant solution.  But it's very costly, and I think 
>>> that the B&M dynamo (for example) would likely do a fine job in its place.
>>>
>>> As for powering something like a USB charger in addition to a headlight, 
>>> it can do that.  I didn't test it for great periods of time, but my phone 
>>> (a Lumia) did show that it was charging.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions they want addressed on the Velogical, I'll 
>>> try to answer them from my experience.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:42:57 PM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was talking with Jeff Jones about lighting options with his 29+ bikes 
>>>> (which can't run a disk SON hub because of 142mm spacing) and he said that 
>>>> one of his customers had good results with this fancy model: 
>>>> http://www.velogical-engineering.com/rim-dynamo-en
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering it for the 29+ I want to build, I could power a 
>>>> headlight alone up front and also a B&M E-werk for charging batteries. 
>>>> Seems like a good solution to the one drawback of the 29+ model (no 
>>>> dynohub). I'm also wondering if some battery-powered lights (Cygolite, 
>>>> Light & Motion) have advanced to the point of being tolerable to use now 
>>>> in 
>>>> terms of reliability. 
>>>>
>>>

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