Looks like a good surgery, hopefully the patient is recovering nicely!

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.lespera...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have the standard, not EL version of the RTP's, and I may have had them
> a bit higher pressure than what I'll eventually land at. I started with
> about 50 psi on the rear and 45 on the front. About halfway through my ~8
> mile ride through a mostly urban area, I stopped and let a minimal,
> unmeasured amount of air out of each tire.
>
> I think the XOXO is a relatively peppy ride, in my experience. I don't pay
> attention to angles, trail and other metrics, I just know when things feel
> different and if I like the ride or not. Compared to my Riv bikes, the XOXO
> has, had, almost twitchy front-end handling and jumps forward from a
> stopped position. I think it's lower trail than my Rivs and has either
> shorter chainstays or steeper seat tube or both. I think the introduction
> of the RTP's changes the trail (pneumatic trail?), slowing down the
> steering response a bit, and in some way, has deadened my acceleration
> feeling from a stop. I say carefully there "feeling" as I didn't actually
> time anything.
>
> I'll get out for a mixed surface ride tomorrow suburban streets -> urban
> streets -> hard-packed/rutted dirt/gravel -> mixed gravel/dirt/sand and
> play with the PSI, with a pump with a pressure gauge handy, to see if I can
> find nirvana with these tires.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, mitch <mitch.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> ...My initial reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed with the tires. I
>>> ride the 700x38 Barlow Pass on my Sam Hillborne and 650bx42 Babyshoe Pass
>>> on my Homer, and they are life-changing tires on those bikes. I didn't have
>>> an epiphany while riding the Rat Trap Pass for the first time, but we'll
>>> see how they do with a long mixed surface ride this weekend and a week of
>>> commuting...
>>>
>>>
>> Remind us what pressure you used for your test ride (and if you're RTPS
>> are EL version)?  I wonder if you had them at too high a pressure to feel
>> the ride? I doubt it if you're already familiar with the Barlow Pass tires.
>> One thing I noticed about the Baby Shoe Pass is how low the pressure could
>> go without feeling sluggish. At the point where they are in danger of
>> snakebite at every bump and they can't even corner right, they still feel
>> fast. Non-supple tires feel deadly sluggish as soon as they're below a
>> relatively high pressure. In other words as soon as you have to flex the
>> sidewalls noticeably, they complain. I've wondered whether the big RTPs
>> would feel too bouncy. I know the BSP ELs felt bouncy at first so I wonder
>> what twice the volume will feel like.
>>
>> --Mitch
>>
>>
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