I didn't get out on the longer, mixed surface ride that I'd hoped for, but I have commuted on the XOXO a few times this week, and put in some bonus miles over some rough urban roads and a bit of offroad stuff. I'm definitely warming to the RTP's. The most significant performance feature that I'm noticing at this point is the confident cornering these tires allow. I feel like I can really lean the bike over significantly further in higher-speed corners than I could with the 26x2 Kojaks I was running. The nice round profile makes for confident and comfortable handling. I've slowly let a bit of air out of each tire on each trip and this is generally improving the just-riding-around feel of the tires, but I'm still not feeling the love and devotion that I have for the Barlow Pass and Babyshoe Pass tires on my other bikes. Maybe it's the bike. Hopefully I'll get out on a longer trip this weekend and can report further findings.
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.lespera...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have the standard, not EL version of the RTP's, and I may have had them > a bit higher pressure than what I'll eventually land at. I started with > about 50 psi on the rear and 45 on the front. About halfway through my ~8 > mile ride through a mostly urban area, I stopped and let a minimal, > unmeasured amount of air out of each tire. > > I think the XOXO is a relatively peppy ride, in my experience. I don't pay > attention to angles, trail and other metrics, I just know when things feel > different and if I like the ride or not. Compared to my Riv bikes, the XOXO > has, had, almost twitchy front-end handling and jumps forward from a > stopped position. I think it's lower trail than my Rivs and has either > shorter chainstays or steeper seat tube or both. I think the introduction > of the RTP's changes the trail (pneumatic trail?), slowing down the > steering response a bit, and in some way, has deadened my acceleration > feeling from a stop. I say carefully there "feeling" as I didn't actually > time anything. > > I'll get out for a mixed surface ride tomorrow suburban streets -> urban > streets -> hard-packed/rutted dirt/gravel -> mixed gravel/dirt/sand and > play with the PSI, with a pump with a pressure gauge handy, to see if I can > find nirvana with these tires. > > -Jeff > Silver Spring, MD > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:33 PM, mitch <mitch.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote: >>> >>> >>> ...My initial reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed with the tires. I >>> ride the 700x38 Barlow Pass on my Sam Hillborne and 650bx42 Babyshoe Pass >>> on my Homer, and they are life-changing tires on those bikes. I didn't have >>> an epiphany while riding the Rat Trap Pass for the first time, but we'll >>> see how they do with a long mixed surface ride this weekend and a week of >>> commuting... >>> >>> >> Remind us what pressure you used for your test ride (and if you're RTPS >> are EL version)? I wonder if you had them at too high a pressure to feel >> the ride? I doubt it if you're already familiar with the Barlow Pass tires. >> One thing I noticed about the Baby Shoe Pass is how low the pressure could >> go without feeling sluggish. At the point where they are in danger of >> snakebite at every bump and they can't even corner right, they still feel >> fast. Non-supple tires feel deadly sluggish as soon as they're below a >> relatively high pressure. In other words as soon as you have to flex the >> sidewalls noticeably, they complain. I've wondered whether the big RTPs >> would feel too bouncy. I know the BSP ELs felt bouncy at first so I wonder >> what twice the volume will feel like. >> >> --Mitch >> >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to >> internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send >> email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >> group rules and how to contact the moderation team, visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/internet-bob?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "internet-bob" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/137a8110-baa7-489e-a899-4ddceb374564%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/137a8110-baa7-489e-a899-4ddceb374564%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
