A little rooting around on Phil's site yesterday reveals that Phil Wood makes a BMX-specific hubset (100/110mm axles). For all I know, they may very well have made similar hubsets since the early '80s. I would assume that the purpose-built BMX rear hub(s) are designed to accept standard BMX freewheels, with removal to be done with standard tools. Phil recommends the White Industries ENO for the current hubset.
My situation (and Gerorge's situation too, sounds like) is a BMX freewheel mounted on a standard multigear PW freewheel hub. The Phil axle caps used on multigear and track hubs is substantially wider than traditional axles, to support the bearings better. I'm guessing that the axle caps/ends on the BMX hubs are different from the multigear/track ones, so that standard BMX FW removers can be used. Otherwise, Phil would make and sell FW removers for their own BMX hubs; it's not as if they haven't made tool-gizmos to fit their own special components in the past (cough cough *2 grades of BB cup tools* cough cough *2 different grease guns* cough cough *brand-specific lock ring tools* cough cough *hub preload bearing Dixie cup* cough). Mark, I take it you're using single-speed specific hubs - possibly BMX-specific hubs. If the OLD on the rear is 110mm, then it would have to be; Phil's standard road/track rear hubs have never been narrower than 120. Peter Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-8, George Schick wrote: > > Mark - Yep, you've got it exactly. I'm just trying to figure out an easy > way to get the BMX freewheel tool on there without having to remove the > axle caps. I have several SS freewheels and I like to interchange them > occasionally, depending on riding conditions. You're solution works just > fine; call me lazy. > > David - You've got it exactly, too. > > On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:33:18 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: >> >> I think folks are putting single speed freewheels on hubs designed for >> multi-speed freewheels, then having difficult getting the tool over the >> axle. >> David >> Chicago >> >> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:15:29 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: >>> >>> I'm a bit confused - I have two sets of Phil single speed hubs, both >>> with white industries freewheels on them, and I've used a plain ol Shimano >>> BMW freewheel remover to get them off. I remove the axle bolt, put the tool >>> on, and then thread the axle bolt back in to keep the tool engaged and not >>> slip. Works with hubs spaced 120 and 130. Is this the same situation? >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: >>>> >>>> Curiosity got the best of me so I went down to the shop to take some >>>> actual measurements. The opening on the FR-6 is 15.29mm; the PW axle cap >>>> diameter is 18.87mm. So milling out the tool to about 19mm may not >>>> involve >>>> removing as critical an amount of material as I feared. I think I might >>>> go >>>> after this solution. BTW, from what little I know about machinist work, >>>> I'm thinking this would probably get done with a vertical milling machine, >>>> not a lathe. >>>> >>>> Thanks all for your suggestions. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will - your advice is exactly how i do it. Then, since the axle cap >>>>> can't be reinstalled with the BMX tool in there, I shore it up with a >>>>> couple of fender washers to support it on the DS. I have also thought >>>>> about your suggestion to bore out the hole on the FR-6 tool to fit over >>>>> the >>>>> axle cap (I have a machinist friend with the lathe), but I fear that it >>>>> may >>>>> leave the remaining metal too thin to withstand the torque involved in >>>>> removing the freewheel. Might be worth a shot sometime, though. They're >>>>> not that expensive a tool… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:57:18 PM UTC-6, William deRosset >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear George, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you pull the DS and leave the NDS (my non-track end-cap-swappable >>>>>> Phil hubs are in VT these days, or I'd check) in place to locate the QR? >>>>>> All the QR needs is to provide some preload to hold the splines >>>>>> prongs/splines in place until the freewheel shifts a bit. Alternatively, >>>>>> you could throw your freewheel remover on the lathe and bore it out a >>>>>> bit.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Will >>>>>> William M. deRosset >>>>>> Fort Collins, CO >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 5:32:08 PM UTC-7, George Schick >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone out there know of a "BMX" freewheel removal tool that will >>>>>>> work well with a Phil Hub? Unfortunately, the center hole on a >>>>>>> commonly >>>>>>> used tool, like the Park FR-6, is not large enough to slip over the >>>>>>> larger-than-normal axle caps of the Phil hub. This means that the axle >>>>>>> cap >>>>>>> on the drive side must first be removed, which is not only an extra >>>>>>> PITA, >>>>>>> but then the removal tool has to sit against the notches on the >>>>>>> freewheel >>>>>>> without benefit of the QR skewer to hold it in place, risking the >>>>>>> stripping >>>>>>> of the FW notches in the process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
