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I'm envisioning it's a hub not unlike this one. That chubby protuberance on the right is >16mm in diameter, so it has to be removed in order to allow you to slide the Park Tool on. A Park tool with its hole wowed out to 19mm or wider would fit over that chubby protuberance. On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 2:59:41 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Just for my own clarity's sake - when you say axle cap - are you referring > to the bolt that tightens the hub into the frame? Or are you referring to > the axle piece on the inside of the frame, which the bolts thread into? > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:50 PM, George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Yeah, as I said in one of my replies on this thread, the "standard" 120mm >> road axle caps measure 18.87mm, which is way too wide for the FR-6 to fit >> over them. One has to remove at least the DS axle cap in order to get the >> FR-6 (and presumably anyone else's tool, as well) to work. That's why I'm >> trying to get my FR-6 widened by a machinist to at least 19mm. >> >> I admit that this is a one-off request, but hey, I view this community >> and blog to be all about one-off solutions, trying to mix and match various >> component to fit with a particular frame or part :-) >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 3:45:40 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>> The OP actually suggests the FR-6 isn't big enough. My link says up to >>> 16mm, so maybe his Phil hubs axle caps are larger than 16mm? >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:40:03 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh you know what, that is the tool I have. I guess it's not Shimano. >>>> Definitely the Park tool! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Park FR-6 has a large through hole and clears anything up to 16mm >>>>> in diameter. Here's a link: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.parktool.com/product/freewheel-remover-fr-6 >>>>> >>>>> The BMX freewheel removal tool I have barely fits over a normal >>>>> threaded axle. So when I had to pull the FW on my Phil Hub I had to roll >>>>> down to the LBS and use theirs. Maybe the OP has what I have, and maybe >>>>> both of us need an FR-6. >>>>> >>>>> Bill who-has-a-phil-rear-hub-with-a-bmx-freewheel Lindsay >>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-8, George Schick >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mark - Yep, you've got it exactly. I'm just trying to figure out an >>>>>> easy way to get the BMX freewheel tool on there without having to remove >>>>>> the axle caps. I have several SS freewheels and I like to interchange >>>>>> them >>>>>> occasionally, depending on riding conditions. You're solution works >>>>>> just >>>>>> fine; call me lazy. >>>>>> >>>>>> David - You've got it exactly, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:33:18 PM UTC-6, David Banzer >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think folks are putting single speed freewheels on hubs designed >>>>>>> for multi-speed freewheels, then having difficult getting the tool over >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> axle. >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> Chicago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:15:29 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm a bit confused - I have two sets of Phil single speed hubs, >>>>>>>> both with white industries freewheels on them, and I've used a plain >>>>>>>> ol >>>>>>>> Shimano BMW freewheel remover to get them off. I remove the axle bolt, >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> the tool on, and then thread the axle bolt back in to keep the tool >>>>>>>> engaged >>>>>>>> and not slip. Works with hubs spaced 120 and 130. Is this the same >>>>>>>> situation? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-6, George Schick >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Curiosity got the best of me so I went down to the shop to take >>>>>>>>> some actual measurements. The opening on the FR-6 is 15.29mm; the PW >>>>>>>>> axle >>>>>>>>> cap diameter is 18.87mm. So milling out the tool to about 19mm may >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> involve removing as critical an amount of material as I feared. I >>>>>>>>> think I >>>>>>>>> might go after this solution. BTW, from what little I know about >>>>>>>>> machinist >>>>>>>>> work, I'm thinking this would probably get done with a vertical >>>>>>>>> milling >>>>>>>>> machine, not a lathe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks all for your suggestions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-6, George Schick >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will - your advice is exactly how i do it. Then, since the axle >>>>>>>>>> cap can't be reinstalled with the BMX tool in there, I shore it up >>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>> couple of fender washers to support it on the DS. I have also >>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> about your suggestion to bore out the hole on the FR-6 tool to fit >>>>>>>>>> over the >>>>>>>>>> axle cap (I have a machinist friend with the lathe), but I fear that >>>>>>>>>> it may >>>>>>>>>> leave the remaining metal too thin to withstand the torque involved >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> removing the freewheel. Might be worth a shot sometime, though. >>>>>>>>>> They're >>>>>>>>>> not that expensive a tool… >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:57:18 PM UTC-6, William >>>>>>>>>> deRosset wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear George, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you pull the DS and leave the NDS (my non-track >>>>>>>>>>> end-cap-swappable Phil hubs are in VT these days, or I'd check) in >>>>>>>>>>> place to >>>>>>>>>>> locate the QR? All the QR needs is to provide some preload to hold >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> splines prongs/splines in place until the freewheel shifts a bit. >>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, you could throw your freewheel remover on the lathe >>>>>>>>>>> and bore >>>>>>>>>>> it out a bit.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Will >>>>>>>>>>> William M. deRosset >>>>>>>>>>> Fort Collins, CO >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 5:32:08 PM UTC-7, George Schick >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone out there know of a "BMX" freewheel removal tool that >>>>>>>>>>>> will work well with a Phil Hub? Unfortunately, the center hole on >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> commonly used tool, like the Park FR-6, is not large enough to >>>>>>>>>>>> slip over >>>>>>>>>>>> the larger-than-normal axle caps of the Phil hub. This means that >>>>>>>>>>>> the axle >>>>>>>>>>>> cap on the drive side must first be removed, which is not only an >>>>>>>>>>>> extra >>>>>>>>>>>> PITA, but then the removal tool has to sit against the notches on >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> freewheel without benefit of the QR skewer to hold it in place, >>>>>>>>>>>> risking the >>>>>>>>>>>> stripping of the FW notches in the process. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/oNqXFQvMZbQ/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/oNqXFQvMZbQ/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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