I'm using their standard track rear hubs. One is on my surly steamroller with 120mm spacing. The other is on a CX SS bike with 130mm spacing. Never had a problem removing my freewheels, so long as I took the axle bolt out.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Peter Adler <divisi....@gmail.com> wrote: > A little rooting around on Phil's site yesterday reveals that Phil Wood > makes a BMX-specific hubset (100/110mm axles). For all I know, they may > very well have made similar hubsets since the early '80s. I would assume > that the purpose-built BMX rear hub(s) are designed to accept standard BMX > freewheels, with removal to be done with standard tools. Phil recommends > the White Industries ENO for the current hubset. > > My situation (and Gerorge's situation too, sounds like) is a BMX > freewheel mounted on a standard multigear PW freewheel hub. The Phil axle > caps used on multigear and track hubs is substantially wider than > traditional axles, to support the bearings better. I'm guessing that the > axle caps/ends on the BMX hubs are different from the multigear/track ones, > so that standard BMX FW removers can be used. Otherwise, Phil would make > and sell FW removers for their own BMX hubs; it's not as if they haven't > made tool-gizmos to fit their own special components in the past (cough > cough *2 grades of BB cup tools* cough cough *2 different grease guns* > cough cough *brand-specific lock ring tools* cough cough *hub preload > bearing Dixie cup* cough). > > Mark, I take it you're using single-speed specific hubs - possibly > BMX-specific hubs. If the OLD on the rear is 110mm, then it would have to > be; Phil's standard road/track rear hubs have never been narrower than 120. > > Peter Adler > Berkeley, CA/USA > > > On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-8, George Schick wrote: >> >> Mark - Yep, you've got it exactly. I'm just trying to figure out an easy >> way to get the BMX freewheel tool on there without having to remove the >> axle caps. I have several SS freewheels and I like to interchange them >> occasionally, depending on riding conditions. You're solution works just >> fine; call me lazy. >> >> David - You've got it exactly, too. >> >> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:33:18 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: >>> >>> I think folks are putting single speed freewheels on hubs designed for >>> multi-speed freewheels, then having difficult getting the tool over the >>> axle. >>> David >>> Chicago >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 1:15:29 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm a bit confused - I have two sets of Phil single speed hubs, both >>>> with white industries freewheels on them, and I've used a plain ol Shimano >>>> BMW freewheel remover to get them off. I remove the axle bolt, put the tool >>>> on, and then thread the axle bolt back in to keep the tool engaged and not >>>> slip. Works with hubs spaced 120 and 130. Is this the same situation? >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Curiosity got the best of me so I went down to the shop to take some >>>>> actual measurements. The opening on the FR-6 is 15.29mm; the PW axle cap >>>>> diameter is 18.87mm. So milling out the tool to about 19mm may not >>>>> involve >>>>> removing as critical an amount of material as I feared. I think I might >>>>> go >>>>> after this solution. BTW, from what little I know about machinist work, >>>>> I'm thinking this would probably get done with a vertical milling machine, >>>>> not a lathe. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks all for your suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:07:05 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Will - your advice is exactly how i do it. Then, since the axle cap >>>>>> can't be reinstalled with the BMX tool in there, I shore it up with a >>>>>> couple of fender washers to support it on the DS. I have also thought >>>>>> about your suggestion to bore out the hole on the FR-6 tool to fit over >>>>>> the >>>>>> axle cap (I have a machinist friend with the lathe), but I fear that it >>>>>> may >>>>>> leave the remaining metal too thin to withstand the torque involved in >>>>>> removing the freewheel. Might be worth a shot sometime, though. They're >>>>>> not that expensive a tool… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:57:18 PM UTC-6, William deRosset >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear George, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you pull the DS and leave the NDS (my non-track >>>>>>> end-cap-swappable Phil hubs are in VT these days, or I'd check) in >>>>>>> place to >>>>>>> locate the QR? All the QR needs is to provide some preload to hold the >>>>>>> splines prongs/splines in place until the freewheel shifts a bit. >>>>>>> Alternatively, you could throw your freewheel remover on the lathe and >>>>>>> bore >>>>>>> it out a bit.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will >>>>>>> William M. deRosset >>>>>>> Fort Collins, CO >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 5:32:08 PM UTC-7, George Schick >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone out there know of a "BMX" freewheel removal tool that will >>>>>>>> work well with a Phil Hub? Unfortunately, the center hole on a >>>>>>>> commonly >>>>>>>> used tool, like the Park FR-6, is not large enough to slip over the >>>>>>>> larger-than-normal axle caps of the Phil hub. This means that the >>>>>>>> axle cap >>>>>>>> on the drive side must first be removed, which is not only an extra >>>>>>>> PITA, >>>>>>>> but then the removal tool has to sit against the notches on the >>>>>>>> freewheel >>>>>>>> without benefit of the QR skewer to hold it in place, risking the >>>>>>>> stripping >>>>>>>> of the FW notches in the process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/oNqXFQvMZbQ/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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