Has anyone with real cycling design bona fides done a dispassionate
analysis comparing the advantages and disadvantages of carbon fiber and
steel as materials for bicycle parts and frames?

For example, local builder Dave Porter claimed, or used to claim (this was
4-5 years ago) that he could build a steel bike as light as a carbon fiber
one using the latest steels. OTOH, don't they use CF for F1 racing car
cockpit tubs?

Intelligently used (please note that qualification), would CF be both
lighter and stronger in a bike frame properly designed for that material,
than the best steel? Or just lighter? Or just stronger? Or neither?

The discussion of CF *as such* and steel *as such* as frame materials so
often doesn't prescind from the stupid light designs used by marketers to
sell new bikes to the gullible. It would be refreshing to see an
intelligent comparison of the materials' real advantages.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Surlyprof <jmcclu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *"I have never been forced to accept compromises but I have willingly
> accepted constraints."*  - Charles Eames
>
> I am also an Industrial Designer and teacher of future designers.  Carbon
> fiber is the choice of many young designers because, like any plastic
> material, it seductively can be any shape you want it to be reducing or
> eliminating constraints of materials and manufacturing processes.  It
> continues to be a staple in the bike industry because (1) the public was
> led to believe it is better and (2) to go back to steel would reveal the
> flaws in carbon.
>

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